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SEMO women could clinch three-peat tonight

Posted Saturday, February 23, 2008, at 10:17 AM

Not to get ahead of things, but there is a decent chance the SEMO women's basketball team will be able to clinch a three-peat by a little after 9 p.m. tonight.

The Redhawks lead Samford by one game as they chase their third straight OVC regular-season title. Both squads have three games remaining.

That includes Samford visiting a tough Murray State team this afternoon, so you've got to think the chances of the Bulldogs suffering a loss are at least 50-50.

If that happens, the Redhawks will take the court tonight at home against Eastern Kentucky needing only a win to clinch at least a share of another championship.

Even if that entire scenario doesn't play out, the Redhawks -- with all three of their remaining games at home, including one against Samford -- are in a great shape to nail down the three-peat at some point.

Hope to see everybody at the Show Me Center for tonight's 7:30 p.m. tipoff.


A quick OVC men's basketball note:

Austin Peay's Drake Reed, the league's reigning player of the year, has been suspended for Thursday's game at Eastern Kentucky for receiving two technical fouls in the Govs' most recent contest.

That could hamper the Govs' chances of winning the outright OVC title, although they have already clinched at least a share of their second straight crown.

Austin Peay, two games ahead of Murray State, finishes at Eastern Kentucky and Morehead State, while Murray State closes at Tennessee Tech and at home against Tennessee-Martin.

By the way, that Murray at Tech game will have a big impact on SEMO's chances of slipping into the OVC tournament. I'll expand more on the situation in Monday's newspaper column.


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ABomb: Dumbass you are. Told you I did. Winning it's called.

Mr. Kaverman: Fire Edgar you should. Better team we will be. Make YOU look good it will. Concentrate. Use the force.

-- Posted by Yoda on Thu, Feb 28, 2008, at 10:44 PM

There are some dumb people out here. In all of the responses to my posts, everybody says how hard the marketing staff is working. You then talk about Greek night, etc. Hello! I specifically said, what are they doing in order to increase attendance, are they going above and beyond the call of duty? They have ALWAYS had Greek night and such. They are merely following suit and doing what has ALWAYS been done. What I was implying was, what can and what are they doing to IMPROVE attendance. I'm sure the old guy got a better job due to the extra work he was putting in and new ideas he had. Apparently everybody on here has never had to work hard to improve their own jobs. A lot of people at SEMO are just following suit, and are impressed with themselves by simply showing up and doing what has always been done.

-- Posted by IndianHawks2001 on Thu, Feb 28, 2008, at 9:02 PM

redhawks07:

I can't find your e-mail address. e-mail me at 00golf@charter.net and I'll return my phone number or just e-mail me your phone number and I'll call you. I have to run out for an hour or so but I should be home by noon.

-- Posted by semosupporter on Thu, Feb 28, 2008, at 10:42 AM

SS: So you're saying that Edgar is the problem....or is it the SEMO Administration. Surely you're not going to blame Dobbins and Kaverman for this mess. While I don't think Edgar was the best choice, it's his own fault. He just can't coach.

Send me an email and I'll call you...It's been a while since we've discussed SEMO BBall. I may not make it down Saturday night.

-- Posted by redhawks07 on Thu, Feb 28, 2008, at 10:18 AM

redhawks07:

I'm so frustrated with the mens team I'm very close to just talking about everything on here. The main reason I don't is basicly I just hate to type. To go over everything in a orderly manner would take a lot of typing. That's why I would prefer to do it face to face. I won't do anything on here until the season is over for the men. I would say right now there is about an 80% possibility of the next 3 years being the same as this one or us never being better than a middle of the road OVC team.

-- Posted by semosupporter on Thu, Feb 28, 2008, at 10:00 AM

SS: Are you ever going to tell us exactly what the problem in with the men's team?? Because if something doesn't change soon, the results will be the same for the next 3 years.

I believe you have my email address.

-- Posted by redhawks07 on Thu, Feb 28, 2008, at 9:09 AM

Yoda:

I've always been a big supporter of the womens team. I actually follow them closer than the men. I always go to Nashville to support them and went to Denver 2 years ago when they played in the ncaa tournament.

-- Posted by semosupporter on Thu, Feb 28, 2008, at 7:23 AM

semosupporter: In reading your previous posts, I sense frustration in you about the SEMO men's basketball team. Switch to the women's team you have. Wise choice it is.

-- Posted by Yoda on Wed, Feb 27, 2008, at 11:51 PM

Jackson573:

If the playoffs were today the women would play Morehead. But Morehead has their last two games at home and they're both winnable games. It's more likely that the women will play Jax. St. or Tenn. Tech.

-- Posted by semosupporter on Wed, Feb 27, 2008, at 11:01 PM

I should add - I agree with you 100% about the ESPN game. I thought the students were fabulous that night.

-- Posted by boomerang on Wed, Feb 27, 2008, at 9:14 PM

Yeah you're right, points wasn't the right term exactly. But it is a Minimum Standard event and that is why you "have a hunch" that the students will be there. It's really kind of lame for you to imply what you did, without explaining how IFC changed the Minimum Standard event from the Khalfani lecture to the basketball game. The change just happened and if it wasn't for that decision, you know good and well not 15 Greeks would have been at the game. It's got nothing to do with the Marketing Dept, but everything to do with IFC making a change.

I'm not trying to start an argument with you, just thought your comment was diengenuous.

p.s. As an old ****, I enjoy it when the Greeks come out to the game, and wish they would come to more! The Sigma Nu's have been pretty good this year at times.

-- Posted by boomerang on Wed, Feb 27, 2008, at 9:12 PM

Does anyone else on here find it disturbing that "Abomb" is walking around SEMO's campus asking them about games? You are sick in the head.

Abomb,(SICKO)

Being a student I can tell you that the university communicates with us through our student website, email blasts, and facebook. Duh! Have you herd about technology.

-- Posted by highhillheckler on Wed, Feb 27, 2008, at 8:30 PM

Does anyone know who the girls will most likely play in the First round of the tournament?

-- Posted by Jackson573 on Wed, Feb 27, 2008, at 5:30 PM

Tomorrow night is Greek Night and I am a Sig Ep and I know for a fact that we do NOT receive any points from Minimum Standards for attending.

-- Posted by JackBauer on Wed, Feb 27, 2008, at 4:54 PM

Thursday's game is Greek night in that they get points for showing up with a minimum number of people. They'll show up because of that, not because of anything the Marketing dept has done.

-- Posted by boomerang on Wed, Feb 27, 2008, at 4:36 PM

Abomb,

My favorite picture in that gallery is the one of ESPN Color Analyst Mark Adams crowd surfing through the student section while broadcasting the game.

Oh yeah, after you are wrong about tomorrow night, you will probably want to change your blog name, so all of us can go back to respecting your opinion.

-- Posted by JackBauer on Wed, Feb 27, 2008, at 4:35 PM

Abomb, Please attend the SEMO basketball game this Thursday to find out that your sampling efforts are way off. I have a hunch that the students will be there in spirit on Thursday night, despite the record of men's basketball team, but because the efforts of the marketing crew.

Abomb, May I remind you that you are the same person that said the students "didn't attend the ESPNU game." AND IT WAS THE BIGGEST STUDENT TURN OUT OF THE YEAR. (THAT was the game that you decided to blog about when you did not attend.)

Please look at this photo gallery at GoSoutheast.com. Then click on the ESPN game that you did not attend: Redhawks Men's Basketball vs. Austin Peay Photo Gallery. Here you go again:

http://gosoutheast.cstv.com/genrel/galle......

-- Posted by JackBauer on Wed, Feb 27, 2008, at 4:07 PM

316..you are making a lot of assumptions there.

-- Posted by bdr4981 on Wed, Feb 27, 2008, at 9:49 AM

What about bring a gun to the game night, or a halftime rodeo event? Maybe if we had a convenient place right outside the SMC to tie up your horse... Or maybe a kill or catch your own concession night. Maybe instead of T shirts we could throw adult diapers or Depends into the stands. Maybe the blimp could drop instructions on cheering for basketball games, or better yet, a book on coaching basketball. Hopefully someone would pick it up and throw it towards our bench!!!

-- Posted by King_Hooper on Wed, Feb 27, 2008, at 8:26 AM

semo99grad: We were discussing the SEMO students not knowing about the BBall games. I'm just saying that IF a SEMO student is a sports fan, he/she probably knows when the games are.

If not, they probably have no interest in coming to the game in the first place.

It's the same as me saying you couldn't pay me to go to an NBA game...because I don't care.

A SEMO student has all the resources to know about the games without all the high dollar marketing. If they're a sports fan and don't know how to check out www.gosoutheast.com, they're dumb as a box of rocks.

-- Posted by semosoccer on Wed, Feb 27, 2008, at 12:37 AM

First you want everyone to come to the games... now most people have no business. I would tell you to make up your mind but you would have to pull your head out of your rear for that to happen. And that is a lost cause.

BTW... marketing is 90% for the fairweather fans. The hardcore fans do know when the games are. It is the fairweather fans and non fans (who make up most of the people at the games and still spend a lot of money!)

More marketing isn't going to draw a lot of hard core fans. More marketing draws the fringe crowd... the crowd SIU316 says don't belong at the games.

-- Posted by semo99grad on Tue, Feb 26, 2008, at 11:10 PM

ABomb: Any SEMO student that doesn't know when the major sporting events are must be an idiot. Seriously. There's a thing called the "Internet" that has just about everything you need to know about SEMO. There's the Capaha Arrow and the S.E. Missourian.

If people don't know when the BBall games are....then they're probably not a sports fan and have NO business going to the games anyway.

-- Posted by semosoccer on Tue, Feb 26, 2008, at 9:25 PM

BB and crew are NOT working their tails off.

I was on campus TODAY, and I asked 40 students while walking to class when the next men's basketball game was. 4 out of 40, I repeat, 4 out of 40 knew there was a game Thursday night. Only 3 others knew there was a game later this week. Take it for what you will.

p.s. I saw NO signs promoting a game in just 2 days, a must-win game at that.

-- Posted by IndianHawks2001 on Tue, Feb 26, 2008, at 9:08 PM

Boom... crack me up. Although I think you could try and explain relevance all day to him and his hard on for SIU would still be the same.

-- Posted by semo99grad on Tue, Feb 26, 2008, at 5:06 PM

Students aren't going to come out to the games UNTIL we start winning. Marketing has NOTHING to do with it.

Our marketing is just fine. BB and crew work their tails off day in and day out. Considering they don't have much to work with, they do a fine job.

-- Posted by semosoccer on Tue, Feb 26, 2008, at 3:15 PM

In all seriousness now - I think we could do more to attract fans, but it is worth noting that there are many colleges that draw similar to us.

Wis-Milwaukee won a 1st rd NCAA tournament game just 2 seasons ago, yet they are only avg 3600 per game now.

Northwestern LA upset #3 seed Iowa in the first rd 2 years ago - and now they avg 1511 for a home game.

Winthrop won a 1st rd game last year against Notre Dame, was ranked #22 in the USAToday in March, but is only avg around 3200 per game in a building that holds 6100.

Think about what Semo would be avg if we were 2 seasons removed from upsetting a 3 seed in the Big Dance, or beating 2 major conference teams in a regular season tournament, or being ranked #22 in the country just 11 months ago.

As far as students coming out - if someone could figure out how to broadcast a game on Facebook instead of ESPNU, then you would have kids show up in droves lol....

-- Posted by boomerang on Tue, Feb 26, 2008, at 2:04 PM

We can't avg more then Montana!!! My goodness, we might as well close the shop. (snark)

-- Posted by bdr4981 on Tue, Feb 26, 2008, at 12:55 PM

316 you might be interested in these numbers:

Montana is avg 4179 at home

Cal-St Northridge - 1180

High Point - 1401

Kennesaw St - 852

Canisius - 1329

No Arizona - 1198

Lafayette - 2287

Virginia - 12,262

Stanford - 7331

Pitt - 10,867

Oklahoma - 10,059

Hope this helps.

-- Posted by boomerang on Tue, Feb 26, 2008, at 11:49 AM

SLU plays in a metro area of 1 million people. Siu-C has a student enrollment of almost 24k. I'm not sure what either have to do with Semo. If you want to look at their attendance, here are the links to their websites: (I included the link to the websites of Temple, Louisville, Mizzou and Xavier since they all have about as much relevance to Semo as SLU and Siu-C do)

http://slubillikens.cstv.com/sports/m-ba...

http://siusalukis.cstv.com/sports/m-bask...

http://owlsports.cstv.com/sports/m-baskb...

http://uoflsports.cstv.com/sports/m-bask...

http://mutigers.cstv.com/sports/m-baskbl...

http://goxavier.cstv.com/sports/m-baskbl...

Bowling Green drew 2003 fans to its last home game, against Akron. Ball St is avg 3409 at home this year while IPFW is avg 1846. I thought you might be interested as that has as much relevance to the issue at hand as the question that you asked.

-- Posted by boomerang on Tue, Feb 26, 2008, at 11:35 AM

How is SLU and SIU drawing?

Better yet...how well is Three Rivers CC drawing this year?

-- Posted by redhawks07 on Tue, Feb 26, 2008, at 9:42 AM

316, be sure to read properly before telling people what to do.

No, the PSL/Booster fee is something the AD implemented shortly after taking over. But if the goal is to sell more season tix, it might be worthy to reconsider that idea. They could keep the PSL's for the center court sections 107-108; 122-123 (where most of the fat cats sit anyways), but then open up the rest of the lower bowl to not having to pay the booster fee, and probably sell more season tickets.

-- Posted by bdr4981 on Tue, Feb 26, 2008, at 9:08 AM

--- Arkansas St is avg 2961 at home this season. Semo is averaging 3488.

Jonesboro, Ark has a population of around 55k (20k more than Cape), and a student enrollment of around 10.8k (Jonesboro campus only, 17k when you include their regional campuses) compared to roughly 9k for Semo (Cape campus only, 10.5k when you include regional campuses). The arena that ASU plays in seats 10,563 for basketball and has 2 large video boards on the ends - it is very nice. They have about 2400 students that live on campus, very similar to the number of students living on campus at Semo. Tickets at ASU range from $14-$8 (adults), at Semo tickets range from $14-$9 (adults).

--- Western Illinois is avg 629 per home game. Their highest attended game was 1190 earlier in the season. Their arena seats 5139.

WIU's enrollment is around 13.5k (about 3k more than Semo). Macomb, Ill has a population of roughly 18,500. WIU has about 5300 students living on campus, that's twice what Semo has.

ASU & WIU are really the only comparable non-OVC schools in the area. Most of the others have a much higher enrollment or are in a much more populated area. Central Ark would be the next closest non-OVC comparison really.

Something I noticed while researching this -- Upper reserved ticket prices at $10 for Semo games seems a little high. Most OVC schools have them for $7-8.

-- Posted by boomerang on Tue, Feb 26, 2008, at 1:05 AM

Did he say the Marketing Dept. had anything to do with the PSL? No. He just said that it would be the best thing that the "Athletic department" could do marketing wise.

-- Posted by semo99grad on Tue, Feb 26, 2008, at 12:52 AM

bdr: Are you sure that decision is made by the SEMO Sports Marketing Department?? I don't know if it is or it isn't, BUT be sure to get the facts straight on here before posting.

BTW, how do other NCAA teams in the region draw? Not just the other OVC teams.

Regardless, our men's team still can't win therefore we're not going to draw good crowds.

-- Posted by semosoccer on Tue, Feb 26, 2008, at 12:07 AM

One other point. The best marketing that the athletic department can do is to get rid of the PSL/Booster Fee for season tix. People don't think about it, but it is a pretty huge chunk of change.

-- Posted by bdr4981 on Mon, Feb 25, 2008, at 9:22 PM

Part of it is.. the SE-MO community is huge into HS BB, huge into HS FB, and to a large extent huge into SEMO FB, because SEMO can draw attendance for a worse product then MBB. The problem is many of the HS games take place over the weekend, and people are out watching HS BBall. If and when SEMO BBall starts winning again, the fans will return, but keep in mind attendance is down across the OVC, and the NCAA as a whole, SEMO still beats many teams in the OVC that you would think that, because of their success, that would have better numbers then SE. So you really do have to put some perspective on it. Were not going to get 6400 on a regular basis. The 99-00 team didn't either. Those games are few and far between. SEMO can get 5000 on a regular basis, but they have to win. No marketing is going to change that.

-- Posted by bdr4981 on Mon, Feb 25, 2008, at 9:20 PM

ABomb: Have you ever tried selling a horrible product?? It ain't easy.

BB and company do a fine job. They always have a different sponsor and promotion each game. They could give away 5,000 tickets to every game and still only 3,500 would show up.

People aren't interested because the men's BBall team sucks. Edgar is to blame for that. Well actually you can point to the individual that hired Edgar.

-- Posted by semosoccer on Mon, Feb 25, 2008, at 8:53 PM

Abomb

How is it SEMO's Marketing Departments fault that the basketball team is bad. To market something you must have a product. All the marketing in the world can't help SEMO's men's basketball team win games.

-- Posted by Jackson573 on Mon, Feb 25, 2008, at 8:10 PM

After reading the responses to what I wrote, I am still not satisfied with the marketing for SEMO athletics. Basically what everybody described is everything they HAD been doing for years, if not to a lesser degree. My quandry is that they aren't doing MORE than they have been doing to generate more interest. Just because the team has been giving the same results, doesn't mean everybody else has to sit back and keep doing the same thing. I am sure Eric Foote left because he was doing an outstanding job doing MORE than what was asked. Isn't that how everybody moves up in this world? Apparently we are happy at SEMO by just keep doing what we have always done. Laziness.

-- Posted by IndianHawks2001 on Mon, Feb 25, 2008, at 5:18 PM

JB,

well they aint working...

yes i attend semo games, btw - i can't stand that overweight loudmouth that wears the siu sweatshirt, and sits in section 122.

-- Posted by simple on Mon, Feb 25, 2008, at 4:49 PM

Kudos to the SEMO Sports Marketing Department for the upcoming Sunbeams Nights this Saturday. That will most definitely bring several youngsters out to the SMC to cheer on the Redhawks. Looking forward to seeing that on Saturday. That should bring additional fans to the SMC with the families of the girls.

Too bad the season has been forgettable....again.

-- Posted by redhawks07 on Mon, Feb 25, 2008, at 4:48 PM

Simple,

You must not attend Semo games because they do everything you posted above.

For basketball alone they have Take a kid to the game nights, Meet the Team Night, Hall of Fame Night, Veterans Night, Greek Night, Red OUT night. DQ Blizzard Giveaway Night, Halo Night, Rowdy's Birhday, Sun Beam Night, Autograph Night, Bike Giveaways, Pizza Giveaways, T-shirt giveways, Poster giveaways and foam noodle giveways.

Abomb,

You must not attended the ESPN game, because the students were there.

Please look at this photo gallery at GoSoutheast.com.

Here you go:

http://gosoutheast.cstv.com/genrel/galle...

Then click on the ESPN game that you did not attend:

01/30/2008

Men's Basketball

Redhawks Men's Basketball vs. Austin Peay Photo Gallery

-- Posted by JackBauer on Mon, Feb 25, 2008, at 3:46 PM

ABomb: Eric Foote left SEMO after the 2001-02 season...maybe even during that year. He did a great job of promoting SEMO sports. Of course, our men's BBall was winning from 1998-2001, so that helped out the cause quite a bit.

Now, former SEMO QB Bobby Brune handles the marketing duties, but his hands are tied and he doesn't have much of a budget. That doesn't mean some new ideas need to to be implemented.

-- Posted by El Pibe on Mon, Feb 25, 2008, at 11:30 AM

Who is in charge of marketing and getting our teams noticed? I remember the years around when the team was doing good, circa 1999-2002, there were posters and ads out for every home game all through campus, in the dorms, in the classroom buildings, everywhere! Now, I visited campus before the game last week at home, and you couldn't even tell there was a game that night.

Who used to do it, and who does it now? Did SEMO even know when there team was on tv a few weeks ago? When I went to school, and we were on ESPN, I knew about it for the whole week....I almost got sick of hearing about it. But what happened, only about 6,500+ showed up.....

If you are really wanting this team to grow into a winner, it would help to have fans in the seats, not only for support, but also for recruits.

We can always blame the coaches, but SEMO needs to improve what they have control over.

-- Posted by IndianHawks2001 on Mon, Feb 25, 2008, at 10:29 AM

simple: I've been saying this for years, but NO ONE listens.....nor do they care. They think that 3,500 per game is just fine, since we lead the OVC in attendance.

-- Posted by El Pibe on Mon, Feb 25, 2008, at 9:27 AM

one more comment: you can't get ice cream when the women (only) play. their ice cream is a treat (veddy good).

-- Posted by simple on Mon, Feb 25, 2008, at 9:16 AM

A few thoughts on attending semo b-ball games:

- why does it take sooooooo long to buy tickets at the SMC ticket booth?

- the ushers are indeed usher nazi's

- the blimp is another example of cheap cheap cheap martketing. it flies around, and drops a few cheap coupons...c'mon

- get the marketing dept. at SEMO involved in attracting more fans to the SMC b-ball games. a few ideas:

- kids get in free night. they will spend $ at the concession stands

- 1st nnn fans get something...free popcorn, pretzel, cheezeburger coupon to DQ, 50% discount for a burrito at burritoville, or 1/2 off a sub at jimmy john's...something.

- get the local high school's fan base to show-up. a few years ago coach garner invited cape central's 'the jungle' to one of the games, and it was a blast watching them cheer. if the semo students can't get together, then embarass them with high schooler's spirit.

- greek night, get the pike's or sig chi's to cheer together, or compete being the loudest.

-- Posted by simple on Mon, Feb 25, 2008, at 9:12 AM

Seriously, what is hitting rock bottom for SEMO basketball? It is not like this is the first time that we have missed out on the OVC postseason. It has become a bi-annual event. Some years we do it back to back. That isn't hitting rock bottom at all. I'm not following this logic. You are hired to win basketball games. I have a hard time with people, with personal agendas, openly rooting for one of our teams to lose.

-- Posted by bdr4981 on Mon, Feb 25, 2008, at 9:04 AM

SS: I, as well as many bloggers on here, would like to know your solution. What is hitting ROCK BOTTOM going to do? I'd say missing the OVC Tourney is pretty close to that. I realize Edgar's not going anywhere.

What kind of change in philosophy is needed? Who are you calling the "powers that be"??

I hope to be at the game on Saturday, but not Thursday. It depends is work allows it or not.

-- Posted by El Pibe on Mon, Feb 25, 2008, at 8:36 AM

El Pibe:

No, I'm not saying get rid of Edgar. That's not going to happen anyway. There will be no buyout. Just like a puncher always has a chance to win a fight. We always have a chance to win any OVC game because we have games where we are capable of shooting lights out.

-- Posted by semosupporter on Mon, Feb 25, 2008, at 7:58 AM

to get a look at our new juco signee mark caviness, go to youtube.com, type in semo basketball in the subject, scroll down to mark caviness. it's a highlight film from indian river juco where he is playing now. he looks like a combination of terrick willoughby, david johnson, and kenard moore. you may want to mute the sound, the video has some vulgar rap music on it. other than that he looks like a good player.

-- Posted by jr6057 on Sun, Feb 24, 2008, at 11:13 PM

SS: Are you saying we need to get rid of Edgar?? What exactly is rock bottom?? The only way our team is going to Nashville is to show support for our women's team. We'll be lucky to get ONE win this week, and that won't get us in. Missing the tourney in this league is pretty weak. We're one of the worst teams in the OVC, which is one of the WORST conferences in the nation. What does that make us?? An absolute joke. Why can't the SEMO Administration understand this??

No one at SEMO has the guts....but mainly the money to make a change. It would cost about $500k to buy Edgar out. Not gonna happen.

-- Posted by El Pibe on Sun, Feb 24, 2008, at 10:41 PM

First off by change in philosophy I DON'T mean change our uptempo fast pace style. I believe the ONLY WAY that there is a chance to correct the problem is for us to hit rock bottom. Believe it or not were not there YET. But we're real close. If we were to go to Nashville I believe that would be enough for the powers that be to ignore what the main problem is. It's sort of like a drug addict. Until they admit there is a problem there's no chance to correct it.

-- Posted by semosupporter on Sun, Feb 24, 2008, at 10:28 PM

I'll put it to you like this... if there's anything to be said about SEMO women's hoops, it's that they play better under the rim thn most men's teams [our Hawks included] play over it. I've only been here a couple of months, and I have to concur - this is arguably the best defensive team in the Midwest on the D1 level. Will it translate into another OVC tourney title? Most likely. First round win at the NCAAs? If we get the luck of the draw, yes. I'm surprised we aren't ranked by now, but then again, I'm not surprised.

Nonetheless, congratulations are truly in order for a club that has done what has happened only one other time in women's hoop history. You have to go back to between 1986 and 1988 for similar success, and that's when the women made the D2 national quarterfinals.

MVP of the team? No doubt Missy Whitney. Ashley Lovelady is a close second, just on sheer defense alone.

-- Posted by vincebrown on Sun, Feb 24, 2008, at 10:22 PM

bdr: What's your point with your last post? Of course no one complains about Ishee because there is NO REASON to. Our women's team WINS. Ishee gets the job done....legally.

I'm just saying we're probably not going to win with Edgar....and we have 3 more years to put up with this crap.

-- Posted by El Pibe on Sun, Feb 24, 2008, at 8:45 PM

rebel, i have no problem with madam hitler doing her job, but she could be a little nicer. the last time i checked i've never seen a lot of mud in the seats. if i did i would simply move to the next seat. there is always empty seats available. dry cleaning? why would i take my clothes there, i have my own washer and dryer at home. let me guess your probably one of these fancy corporate types that wears a suit everywhere.

-- Posted by jr6057 on Sun, Feb 24, 2008, at 8:26 PM

SS, I don't live in Cape, so it would take a lot for me to drive down to watch 1 women's basketball game.

Edgar's job is to win, so I hope he finds a way to back into the OVC tournament, beat AP, and win a game in Nashville. What does not making the OVC tournament going to do for us? What has it done for us 3 of the last 5 years?

El Pipe, people don't seem to be complaining about Ishee? Get off the "man's" back..Geez.

-- Posted by bdr4981 on Sun, Feb 24, 2008, at 7:13 PM

semosupporter: It's obvious that the major problem here is Edgar. The guy has no clue. His contract goes 3 more years and NO ONE here at SEMO is going to buy him out. We're basically stuck with Edgar for 3 more years...and he ain't changin his philosophy.

Maybe it's too early to judge Edgar, but I think I'm pretty close to being right on.

This may have been Dobbins' worst hire EVER.

-- Posted by El Pibe on Sun, Feb 24, 2008, at 6:42 PM

hey jr6057, if the seat nazi doesn't doesn't do her job, I'm sure you won't complain about your dry cleaning bill the next time you sit in someone's muddy footprints.

-- Posted by Rebel on Sun, Feb 24, 2008, at 4:52 PM

No, expect more of the same unless a major change in philosophy occures. The games we shoot the ball well from the floor, over 50%, we'll look very good. We'll struggle against vetern teams and get killed against the good out of conference teams. It's very depressing seeing all this "undeveloped" talent we have.

-- Posted by semosupporter on Sun, Feb 24, 2008, at 2:22 PM

Nice job semosupporter. Can we expect to start winning next season?

-- Posted by obamayourmomma08 on Sun, Feb 24, 2008, at 1:41 PM

bdr4981:

Yes, we identified the problem. It was me Marty and Erik Sean. No one else bothered to show up so I guess you don't really care no matter how much you ***** on this blog. We were all in total agreement except for some minor deatails. But I knew the three of us would be in agreement before I got there. It's not a problem that can be solved over night. My personel opinion is it won't be solved and we will have 3 more years of the same results because I don't see any drastic changes coming. The worst thing that could happen is for us to back into the tournament, beat AP in the first round, and maybe win a game in Nashville. If that were to happen then the powers that be would come to the conclution that we have no problem we just hit a long bad streak. That's an understatment. LOL

As I said before, if anyone would like to discuss this I would me happy to meet with you at the games this week. I'll be at both the womens and mens game and Erik or Marty can direct you to me.

-- Posted by semosupporter on Sun, Feb 24, 2008, at 1:27 PM

recman, what is your beef with the lady redhawks? if you like high school ball, that's great. to be exact there was 526 at the game, that's more than your less than 100 figure. quit bashing our girls. i'm also dissapointed there was such a small crowd. i watched duke vs. virginia women earlier today, also michigan vs. purdue. both games there were several thousand in attendance. why can't this city support the girls here like that. i know there are sooo many options entertainment wise of things to do in cape on a saturday night in february. 2 nights before the smc had almost 7,000 to see a rock concert. i'm sure the next time they have monster trucks, or rodeo, or truck and tractor pull...oh i almost forgot, pro rasslin every backwoods redneck and their family will pack the parking lots with there pickup trucks with gun racks, and fill up the place. that's the problem with this town. there are no sports options for sports fans. when the college is not in session you have to go to memphis or st louis to see pro or college sports. but cape doesn't need any pro or minor league teams to watch, i'll just sit next to cousin lulu with her 3 teeth chewing skoal at the next monster truck rally....yeehaw.

-- Posted by jr6057 on Sun, Feb 24, 2008, at 12:42 PM

that was on wednesday looks like the same ole team on the road. 11th place here we come

-- Posted by obamayourmomma08 on Sun, Feb 24, 2008, at 12:33 PM

So did you guys get the problems with the men's team solved last night?

-- Posted by bdr4981 on Sun, Feb 24, 2008, at 11:34 AM

Hey semo redhawks i like notre dame's chances of going to the final four better than the semo ladies making it out of the 1st round of the ncaa tournament

-- Posted by obamayourmomma08 on Sun, Feb 24, 2008, at 8:49 AM

remember on seinfield, they had an episode called the soup nazi, she should be called the seat nazi.

-- Posted by jr6057 on Sat, Feb 23, 2008, at 11:21 PM

Sounds like the SHS vs ND game was a BIG snoooooooozer... (Zzzzzzzz...)

Christopher Smith says Sikeston got killed. That game was over at half-time. I bet all those "hundreds" of folks from Sikeston are glad they made the hour drive to Perryville to watch that laugher now...

-- Posted by SEMO Redhawks on Sat, Feb 23, 2008, at 11:14 PM

Great game tonight by the Southeast Women's Basketball team! Winning their 3rd Straight OVC Championship in pretty convincing fashion against one of the better womens programs in the conference!

The game was never really in doubt after the early minutes of the game. Not sure if EKU even had a lead after Southeast took over early on.

And jr6057 I know what you mean about the usher(s)...including the one you're talking about. She especially gets onto those fans you mentioned... but what I hate is when they fly the blimp around the arena and 100 kids travel in a pack RUNNING through the seats and over people. Those kids need to sit with their parents or the ushers need to keep them from running through the aisles and seats through people. It's pretty rude.

-- Posted by SEMO Redhawks on Sat, Feb 23, 2008, at 11:12 PM

the girls played a great game tonight. i was really proud of them. we are gauranteed a number 1 seed in the ovc tournament. i'm hoping the men can sweep these next 2 at home and get some help and get into the tournament, win or lose going to see semo is a lot of fun. the only thing that gets on my nerves is the dinasour female usher that stands down by the home bench. the whole game all she does is yell at little kids and is constantly telling people to get their feet off of the seats. she got onto me last week for having my feet up and she talked to me and my wife like we had commited a crime. someone at the smc needs to teach their employees to be a little more polite. maybe it's time for these ushers to retire and move back to the retirement home they came from.

-- Posted by jr6057 on Sat, Feb 23, 2008, at 10:56 PM

Both Sikeston and ND were granted about 600 tickets ONLY for tonight's game. NO tickets will be sold at the gate.

If fans don't have their tickets, where will they be able to watch??

I agree with Marty that the usual 500 or so fans will attend the SEMO women's game. Same as in any minor sport at SEMO. It has it's general fan base and that's about it.

Until we start advancing deep into the NCAA Tourney, our women's team just won't draw the thousands of fans they deserve. It's sad, but that's the facts.

-- Posted by El Pibe on Sat, Feb 23, 2008, at 6:35 PM

Sikeston and Notre Dame won't make it to the final four in the state basketball tournament. The SEMO men's basketball team won't make it to Nashville for the OVC Tournament.

The Southeast women will win the OVC and most likely the OVC tournament and make their 3rd consecutive Big Dance after playing a close game vs. Oklahoma last year.

I know which is the biggest story of those three, I don't need anyone to tell me.

-- Posted by SEMO Redhawks on Sat, Feb 23, 2008, at 4:38 PM

Will there be any interest when the womens team is in the NCAA tournament, or will everybody be on these blogs writing about how Edgar and the boys aren't even in the OVC tournament??

-- Posted by IndianHawks2001 on Sat, Feb 23, 2008, at 4:07 PM

The Notre Dame-Sikeston game is at 6, when you are coming back from Perryville, catch the 2nd half of the girls game tonight. It may be free to get in by then anyway.

-- Posted by IndianHawks2001 on Sat, Feb 23, 2008, at 4:06 PM

Well I'll be there... I'd rather watch the Women's team win another OVC Championship than some meaningless high school game you could see anytime, anywhere.

Go Redhawks!

-- Posted by SEMO Redhawks on Sat, Feb 23, 2008, at 1:47 PM

abomb, there will be no more than 100 people there tonight. Who watches womens basketball anyways. Notre Dame vs. Sikeston

-- Posted by obamayourmomma08 on Sat, Feb 23, 2008, at 12:46 PM

It's so good for the girls team!! I hope people in Cape come out tonight, it's good to know our school is good at something! I know it's been said time and again, but this girls team deserves a much better crowd and more town support than what we are getting. Marty, can you do a little feature on each of the girls, maybe a background story for the next 12 days on each of them, so maybe this town can fall in love with these girls?? We need to get this town to fall in love with these girls, so they can have SOMETHING to cheer about...

-- Posted by IndianHawks2001 on Sat, Feb 23, 2008, at 11:46 AM
Marty Mishow's response:
I agree that the SEMO women deserve support, but I'm afraid I'm not going to be able to satisfy your request for a feature on each of the girls. For people who are interested on learning more about the girls, they can check out the SEMO athletic department web site.

The crowd tonight at the show me center will not exceed 100. With the Notre Dame vs. Sikeston game competing against it

-- Posted by obamayourmomma08 on Sat, Feb 23, 2008, at 11:46 AM
Marty Mishow's response:
I agree that the Notre Dame vs. Sikeston game is attracting tons of interest, but I don't know that very many of the same fans attend both events, so I think the women's game will still draw the normal 400 or 500 that it gets when the men don't play the same night.


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