Any seed predictions or championship predictions?
Teams included in the tourney:
Cape Central will be the best team among these by the end of the year. CT vs Sikeston in the ship of this tourney Sikeston wins because CT's stud pg will be out till 2nd semester and another starter out from injury. Second meeting back at Sikeston when CT's healthy = first home loss for Sikeston in years. Cyah winstreak.
Now now Junglepud, you might need to rethink those words. Sikeston WILL NOT get beat at home by CT!!
Really? Dont start this.
We know how those predictions have gone lately. Nothing to worry about as a Bulldogs fan.
Not happening lol.
LOL..Couldn't agree more. Would love to get on here and brag, but haven't had that luxury in a few years..LOL Guess right now the best thing to do is accept the inevitable and keep quiet..LOL Maybe some day I will be able to boast a little. Until then will just enjoy reading you lucky ones.
JungleDud, football is still going on. We'll hit this topic once, oh I don't know, basketball starts? And you think Sikeston loses in Sikeston? You're picking against Boise on the smurf turf, Yankees with Rivera closing, and a #1 seed going down to a #16 all rolled into one. It is the premiere home field advantage in Southeast Missouri with that atmosphere especially. The top facillities, the best fans (who also happen to be the best chanters), and the best team other than Scott Central. It's a winning combination.
Before someone jumps on that last post, yes I am exaggerating a bit though the part of the fans, team, and atmosphere are true and it's going to be tough to beat Sikeston at home.
Mayor Eagle, who is your team? Oran?
Cool! How are they gonna be this year? Someone said they had a couple of good groups of JH kids this year or they were supposed to have. The future should be bright if it isn't already.
Last year there were a couple of pre season shoot outs with some out of state teams coming to Southeast Missouri. Are they scheduled this year and when and where?
There are alot of things that will have to go right for Cape to be that good. First the new point guard will have to adjust and fit in to their system, Second who do they have besides Lane and the Branch kid
Who do they have Boreboom whos started since his freshman year, Williams and Ozbun(hurt for 1st semester) who have started since there sophomore year. And TJ Tisdale who dominated JV last year. Who is Sikeston going to have other than Howard, Hattchet, and Will. Central beat Sikeston last year and its the same team so i dont know what your trying to say.
Other than Howard, Hatchett and Will, they have Corey, Terry Jamison, Kilron Coleman (who will be the breakout player in Southeast Missouri, bet on it), Caleb McGee, Eldridge Gibson, Keldon Warfield, and Vashawn Ruffin. If some of those names are new to you, don't worry. You'll know them all by season's end. A great group of players this year.
I don't care if Boreboom has started since his freshman year or not he has never done anything on the court same goes for Ozbun, Williams can hit the three if you leave him open
"Just like football"
Ouch, as usual, that is a salty field. I am eagerly awaiting the SEMissourian article with a capsule on each time, returners, last years records, etc. Right now I cannot recall who has what returning.
haha all these players who bearley beat Central's JV team are going to step in and be monsters, when Central returns everyone except Casasola but Curtis Branch is better than him.
lets answer the question. what do you think the seeds will be and why?
I have seen Branch play for Central, and I don't think anyone in SEMO will be able to hold him.
Ok....I said I was going to be nice after some of my comments after the beat down Cape just suffered from Sikeston BUT I cant!
You guys, including myself on this one, can talk about anyone and their playing ability....BUT calling someone names on here is pathetic!! What if he would get on here and see what you just posted ctjungl69?? Do you honestly want to stoop that low?
Wasnt that kid who you were just referring to a key part in holding your "Star studed offense" to a combined around 225 total yards in 2 games. He, who you were referring to, wasnt the one with his hands on his knees in the 3rd quarter. Um, that would be your offensive line. I would have said defensive line as well but you guys werent out there that much because we were scoring too fast.
Before you start calling out people and calling people names, think, how would this 17 or 18 year old person feel if he read that post. That is why we have people in America with eating disorders. Call me what you may I dont care, BUT STAY AWAY FROM CALLING NAMES AT THESE KIDS!!!
Your comment was deleted. In addition to being against the rules here it has nothing to do with this discussion.
Who is going to win the SEMO Tournament?
Prolly Sikeston miss crader IMO. Home court advantage sure does seem to help.
So did they finally find the Branch kid a place to live after Dickey Nutt brought him in to CC?
Finally found him a place to live?! pretty sure he has a family and a home nice try. and this is basketball not football. so for all of you sikeston fans that are just gonna keep bringing up football on a basketball thread is idiotic because you have nothing better to say
7. Poplar Bluff
This could be the best tournament in the area in a couple of years if the bottom ranked teams turn their teams around.
At least Cape will have much more practice time to prepare than Sikeston. That should play in their favor.
Sikeston vs. Jackson
ND vs. Cape
Sikston vs. ND
Let me give you my "Reader's Digest" version of the Dogs upcoming basketball team. I won't mention this about every kid because it is true for each one....they all work tremendously hard and are extremely dedicated! IMHO it comes from the coaching staff..Holifield and James.
Will Holifield - arguably the best pure shooter in the area; now creating some of his own shots...watch out!
Darryl Howard - arguably the best on ball defender in the area, lightning quick...can score too
Janiel Hatchett - slasher, scorer, excellent defender; very good shooter
Corey Porter - team leader, great interior passer, best hands in the area, very soft touch...oh yeah, can shoot the 3 ball; great rebounder
Terry Jamison - lightning fast, unbelievable handles, great shooter; pound for pound best finisher in the area
Caleb McGee - great shooter, tenacious defender, one of the strongest guys on the team....I call him "The Hammer"...
Kilron Coleman - one of the best pure scorers, can fill it up behind the arc, unrelenting defender, gets to the rack with anyone
Keldon Warfield - great inside presence, beast on the boards, great shot blocker, excellent athlete
Eldridge Gipson - freak athlete, unbelievable defender, excellent rebounder, slasher scorer
Vashawn Ruffin - great handles, remarkable passer, great shooter...kids only a sophomore..great things to come
In short...deepest team in the area, possibly the state. When the first five come off the floor, the next five don't miss a beat!! Any of the second five would be a starter any where else! Because of football, they MIGHT....I said MIGHT...get off to a slow start. Watch out after Christmas and playoff time!!
CT fan....I forget who said it.....the JV team scrape out a win against you guys and you did best our varsity...last year. We were without We'll see this year!
IMO, this year's team will be better than last year...no disrespect to last year's team. This year's version will be arguably the best team in the area and one of the premier teams in the state...as they have been the past 5 or so years!
I meant to say "We were without Will."
Just noticed the finals post. I think the SEMO Conference Tourney is Sikeston's to lose. Keep in kind that Sikeston beat ND by 34 this summer...yes, ND had Tolbert. However, I never count out ND or Charleston.
I believe Sikeston will be the cream and the team to beat. Cape Central also very strong, but I think a few of you have ND up there too high. I would probably put them more towards the middle or even a slot past the middle. Realizing they hae Tolbert back, do they return any other big names? It seems their scheme and coach is built around 5 guys pressing, going all out and excellent teamwork wtih a great deal of discipline, so sometimes the other players fly below the radar and they may have me fooled.
I tend to agree with you about ND, but I have learned to never count them out. For them, they will have a down year....IMO.
ND graduated 10 seniors off of last year's roster. I'm not sure what they will have beyond Tolbert. I think Alex Beussink is supposed to be pretty solid. Maybe farmboy could shed some light on what they have coming back this season.
Home court advantage definitely helps. Having a better basketball team helps more though.
I agree Sikeston is the cream of the crop in this area with there starting 5 and those JV guys will be pretty darn good middle to the end of the season but it will take a few games to adjust to the speed and physical part of the game. Kids are stronger and just as fast when you move up to the varsity level. I also agree that ND is getting to much credit Tolbert is all they have and there JV wasn't all that great last season.
Can't wait to see darryl try to gaurd curtis..key word = TRY. And whos gonna hold tj boom and james lane, all your "stud" 5'11 players
Curtis is a very good player and he will probally be one of the best if not the best point guards in the area but lets keep it real he is on a new team and running a new system,not even going to get to play until 2nd semester. You would have thought you Cape fans would have learned your leason by braging on how good your team is.
Darryl already grauded the #12 player in the junior or senior class after i talk to him next hour i'll know the details... And from what i heard he can't stay out of trouble..
I heard the same thing about him, i also heard that this is like the 3rd high school he has been to, not trying to start any rumors but just what i was told.
ND is a system team, they tend to plug in any number of guards and it seems to work.
Jungle, Sikeston is shorter than most teams, big deal..Sikeston turbo clocked a Memphis team this summer, in the SEMO camp, whose team was full of 6'6" and 6'7" athletes....I don't mean some 400 pound 6'7"...I mean athletic 6'7" kids!! I'm not gonna start bad mouthing high school kids, but suffice it to say....Sikeston is the real deal and you'll find out soon enough. You better make sure you can handle their press or there won't be that many rebounds to worry about!!!!
I am going to use a line from Junglestuds buddies...
"WRITE IT DOWN" Sikeston will be the team to beat and Cape "MIGHT" get lucky again and beat us if we don't have all of our players.
WRITE IT DOWN!!!
So when they beat you (sikeston) last year you had guys out and when they beat us it was the day after we played Sikeston
There is only one reason that the Sikeston Bulldogs are better this season than last....
Their spring/summer AAU coach really molded this team to be more than the SEMO area can handle.
If other teams in the area are looking to improve they may want to look into this guy running their off season practices.
"I'm Just Sayin"
Yo gadget, from one BUM to another, what up w/ the tired, played out chants from the student section the past couple years? That $&*T is weak!LOL. You gotta do better than, "Lets go Bulldogs,clap,clap,clap,clap,clap". Just ask Ms. Throop for some cash from the cheerleader's fund! You guys could hire a pro, maybe win state?
The Fieldhouse will be fun yet again this year, let's show CT just how wrong they are; JUST LIKE FOOTBALL!
Hoops, who was AAU coach this season?
HOOPS, It wasn't the AAU coach. I know him. He's a hack...
Nonetheless, Sikeston Basketball will be BOSS this year! I will be at the season opener in Blytheville. Can't wait...
Personaly I'm not a big Sikeston fan but they had a very good team last year and has had for several years. I agree with you Cape fans you have size and good talent but your underachieving. You lost more games last year than Sikeston has lost in four years! I was at the Dexter game last year when Dexter beat Cape and I was not impressed.
If you were there then I hope you noticed Cape's point gaurd on crutches and 2 other starters fouling out.
Your the point guard was out but they also had dissapointing losses to Charleston, New Madrid, and Jackson down the stretch. I do though believe that Cape will have a very good team this year.
Cape should be very good this year. Althogh two of their starting guards are out first semister, one maybe longer with an acl tear.
What does jackson have coming back and coming up from last years JV? I know they have bobby clark and mcdowell, anything else?
So who was the Sikeston AAU coach this summer?
The sikeston Junior Class Has never lost a game in freshmen or jv ball including Cape twice. Warfield Jamison Mcgee Coleman and Gipson are all very talented players and its helps to have practiced against the likes of juqualin wiggins and eli jackson last year.
ok, we get that sikeston is good. we understand that they have good players. Can we stop talking about sikeston vs cape and somebody let me know what the other teams have? Like Charleston, New Madrid, Jackson, Bluff, Notre Dame, and dexter Oh...by the way, what does sikeston have? (JJ)!!!
You left a name out Rocket...
Don't forget the Foster kid will be coming up from JV also!!!
You have to put a bio up for him too!!!!!!!
Charleston will be better and has a group of kids coming up through the system who were unbeaten also...
New Madrid is not going to have that much. (probably an understatment)
Jackosn has a couple of good ones still on the team and a 6'9" post player who if he could gains some weight and develope jump hook or some better post moves could make an impact.
Bluff is all out of Raulstons but still have a couple of good athletes that can fill it up when they get the chance.
ND- Maybe the recruiting class will be better next season.
Dexter- didn't lose much and has one of the better players in the area in Flannigan.
and if you haven't heard Sikeston is LOOOOOAAAAADDDDDEEEEEEDDDDDDDDDDDDDD!!!!!
Sikeston could lose kids and still be loaded. Its ridiculous how many athletes they have.
And Central isn't gonna go any better than 3-5 in the conference
The notice on here says not to name people.
Anyway, I was mostly referring to his golf game.
Central isnt gonna go any better than 3-5 in the conference?! Thats the biggest joke ive heard in my life. At the worst, they'll be 5-2..Thats just against their conference opponents in the regular season..if you throw in the semo conference tourney games and christmas tourney..im saying atleast 10-3 throughout the year against conference opponents alone. please tell me whos gonna give central their 5 losses
This is how your breakdown of Sikeston looks to others...
"Let me give you my "Reader's Digest" version of the Dogs upcoming basketball team. I won't mention this about every kid because it is true for each one....they all work tremendously hard and are extremely dedicated! IMHO it comes from the coaching staff..Holifield and James.
Will Holifield - GOD
Darryl Howard - GOD
Janiel Hatchett - GOD
Corey Porter - GOD
Terry Jamison - GOD
Caleb McGee - "THE HAMMER GOD"
Kilron Coleman - GOD
Keldon Warfield - GOD
Eldridge Gipson - GOD
Vashawn Ruffin - GOD
WOW... Rocket if that isn't a bunch of Man Crushes or what!!!!
We might as well start praising the Sikeston Bulldogs since Rocket said that we are playing a bunch of Gods!
TigerPride, you've got a pretty good idea of this year's team. Glad there's at least one Cape fan who see things the way they are.
Rocket689 is not polytheistic.
You sure... cause that is a bunch of Gods... yahyah
I will say Sikeston ND and Bluff will all beat Cape
Charleston and Jackson will beat Cape too.
The Cape kid that tore his acl most likely wouldn't be a starter on this year's team anyway, they are faster and more skilled then last year, he play a big role as a kid coming of the bench but not as a starter. Cape is big, fast, and skilled this year, they didn't lose much from last year and what they did lose they got right back from tansfers and other players stepping up. Sikeston will beat them in the Conference Tournament but Cape will beat them late in the season just like last year. This years Sikeston team will be skilled and athletic but not nearly as strong as last year, losing Eli and Wiggins was HUGE, they were the top two scorers and rebounders last year, also at the top for defensive stats.
Charleston will be good and very scrappy like always but you must remember that they don't have the Farmer kid this year. Who does Notre Dame have besides Tolbert, he's good but nobody is good enough to do everything themself. I know they have some gaurds but they don't have experience and IMO not as good as the gaurds in the past few years. I don't know much about Bluff other then they lost a lot of good athletes in every sport to graduation last year, who do they have this year. I think Jackson might be a dark horse team. They have Clark and McDowell coming back along with their very tall post player and from what I've heard he has much improved since last year, they also have a junior gaurd returning that started some games last year and was a very very good shooter for them.
Obviously Cape has the potential to beat everyone in the area this year. They have great depth all around with Boerboom and Lane down low one quick and one strong then a pure shooter in Williams Then with the new additions of Curtis at guard this team is gonna be able to battle with any team around you cant say that they will lose to Bluff Jackson Sikeston ND and Charleston when they could easily beat everyone and arent we all over looking jackson who is returning some very key players in Mcdowell and Clark
Both Sikeston and Cape have the potential to have great seasons the difference is that year after year Sikeston's teams have proven that they are the best team in the area and Cape hasnt done that. Cape was a very inconsistent team last year but this years team will be much better and this could be a chance to prove that they are one of the powerhouses in southeast Missouri. In saying that this years Sikeston team is possibly the best team they have ever had and this is their year look for them to dominate the area.
Tiger pride, your predictions are about as reliable as my right knee right now.. You had cape blasting sikeston just a couple weeks ago and yes i can bring that up, Sikeston will be very good, your not understanding what they did this summer, your stuck up in your own little world again just blabbering away about pointless facts, okay you got a new recruit this isnt college if he comes in and ball hogs the whole time then he wont benefit the team, not saying he will but high school basketball has a lot of chemistry within the team to be good, And sorry sikestons got multiple d1 talent on their roster right now that if any team could have one they would be a GOD, so untill cape beats sikeston then you really can't run your mouth, you have to take the SEMO conference championship away from us..
And duke, i have nothing to do with the chants, but it would be nice if cheerleadin would share some of that money.. Considering its not a sport and all hahahahah
I'm not bashing Sikeston nor do I want an arguement but how will this years team be better? I mean they did lose two huge players from last years team.
Its this thing called reading Semosports, they clearly played a tough summer schedule which helped them improved, they greatly improved their shooting and have a lot of speed and expiernce, they may lack in size but no 6 7 guy is going to be able to keep up with the speed of the game, besides otto porter.. They have a lot of depth and they lost 2 guys but bounced back with 6-8 guys that would start on any other team in the Semo area.. They will be fast,smart, and very good shooters.. And very wel coached, and all they know how to do is win, so thats what they intend to do
Sikeston has lost some size from last year but I think they could be one of the most athletic and deepest teams in the area. But I hope they improved their jumpshooting from last year because it was either a layup or a 3 for them last year. If they can hit their jumpshots with their defense and speed it will be hard for anyone around here, other than SCC, to beat them.
Sikeston will be better than last year because the skill level of their players! Yes they lost 2 key guys last year but they were bangers Eli nor JQ were skill players they got in the paint and found ways to score with their strength! This squad is by far the deepest in the area and all though small every player is fundamentally sound. I dont know if there is a team in the area maybe the state that has the offensive firepower that Sikeston has but the key will be rebounding! They are very very small and if they cant rebound it will be very tough for them to win games but their guards are very good rebounders and if they can get second chance opportunities they will be dominant.
Sikeston knows they will have to focus on rebounding. Corey Porter is 6'3", but plays 6'7" and will control the boards. He will have help from Keldon Warfield, Janiel Hatchett, and Eldridge Gipson. Also, the guards are very good rebounders as well. They may be a little small, but their relentless ball pressure will make up for that.
Sikeston is gonna be so quick with their full court press they will run up the score before the other team adjust. Football will slow them down but before long they will be on fire. Speed anytime over big! Look for a continuance of their winning ways in BB. Very good athletes!!
Yes i do agree you guys have a really good team this year and are the team to beat in the Semo area. But as far as D1 talent well i don't really see any of that on the team!
when do they seed for this tourny? it should be soon. Also, is it still at sikeston or did they move it to dexter?
So according to the info provided by the Sikeston faithful, anything other then an undefeated State Championship title would be a disappointment and would be considered underachieving. WOW ten deep and all ten are are unstoppable, interesting. With all the unbelievable team speed and talent that has been stated, would this team be comparable to any of the other state championship basketball teams Sikeston has had in the past?
Perryville is gonna be the team to beat this year
Bigelw, then you havent seen talent..plus jamison has talked to mizzou with the camp he went to.. You'll see this basketball season.. And vashon ruffin will be too, probably one of the best sophmores in the state..
I have seen plenty of talent and if you want to get into who is the best guard in this area it is the Branch kid that is at cape my son has played with him and Terry and Vashon and i have watched all these kids play and Curtis is by far the best point guard around here.I am not taking anything away from Terry or Vashon they are both very good players, i just get tired of you always on here thinking Sikeston is the GOD of all sports. When they actually win something than you by all means can come on here and gloat about them being the best in the state. By the way good luck in football i hope you guys bring a state title home to the Semo area.
The Tucker kid from Charleston is pretty good.
How would you rank the players in the area:
1. Otto Porter
2. Jacob Tolbert
I believe that the kid from Cape is ineligible until after XMas. So until that point, it is a little presumptious for his ability to be in the discussion or compared to until able to play.
Yeah, it is a little bit early before we annoint him the best guard in the area. Lets wait until he is cleared to play. I did see him this summer and he is a Bobby Hatchett-type guard. Very quick and skilled. He will definitely help Cape if he is eligible to play.
Tucker has been shut down by howard before when he played for jonesboro, howard has played with him before and will shut him down again.. WRITE THAT DOWN
gadget nobody said anything about the Tucker kid being better then any Sikeston player so why make a comment that just deminishes the compliment that was given from one fan to a player. He said "The Tucker kid from Charleston is pretty good." I just don't see why you feel the need to say that some Sikeston player is better then another player in the area. How about you wait for about halfway through the season to see who is legit this year and who isn't. You are in high school so you should also realize how much can change in a year.
That was my mistake i thought he was talking about the kid from cape, not charelston, i read it wrong, but change that to the kid who is being hyped up for cape..
and championship teams are legit from start to finish, your old and brittle you should know that
Ha. ha. ha. howard shuting down branch? not in a million years..not only will howard not shut down branch but sikeston won't shut down cape. point blank period.
And let the baseless broad generalizations begin.
"My team is better because I say so"
"Every time Darryl Howard attempts a dunk, the opposing fanbase is guaranteed to start a riot."
"Everyone from sikeston must be rude because the bums are"
Darryl Howard will struggle defensively against Cape Central. He'll still be tired after rushing for 275 yards against Cape in two games and helping shut down Cape's explosive offense. Right Keilon? **cough...less than 20 yards in the 2 games...cough**
Is this a basketball or football forum? Could you tell me BW23?
And Inspetorgadget how did Darryl Howard "shut him down" when Sikeston plays a zone? And where did he even play him at?
Ctjungle darryl has played him more then once, when he used to play for jonesboro, he might be good, but thats the only person your bringing up? The other players are okay and sikeston is probably one of the best teams in the state, we'll see soon enough, but your cape faithfuls even say we'll beat cape the first time, because of an acl and him being out.. he won't be 100% from his acl that takes years.. and one person can't change a loss, unless he's the next lebron james... But to you he probably is... bet you wait on him hand and foot!
Good try since he didn't even go to Jonesboro High School. I'm pretty sure we've named other players if you could read earlier up in the forums. 4 starters returning (lead by James Lane who averaged a double double last year) sikestons got 3 returning losing their best 2 players. The same players that beat you last year.
Why don't you ask him if he ever played for any team in jonesboro? Did i say for the highschool? You know what they say when you assume right?
Eli was a rebounder, he didnt lead the team in rebound, and qualin was our go to guy, but if you'd get your head out of your butt and read the earlier posts you'd realize what we lost, we gained even more of, we got two more big mean, that are the same size as qualin, with probably more basketball expiernce, we got kilron coleman, who will probably be one of the break out players this year, and terry jamison who like i've said could be the best basketball player in this part of the state... And i guess i've never heard of james lane.. but you'll remember sikestons team after this year.. BELIEVE THAT
I am neither old or brittle, just fyi. It's amussing how people on here don't know each other but continue to make assumptions. If I was old and brittle would I really know that much about these local team's sports before their seasons even start?
Sikeston to me will not have as much trouble with the gaurds that another team has. They are too deep at guard and if Mizzou has taught anyone anythig its that if you are deeper at the end of game when your guys are fresher you can make a run. No matter the score if this team is within ten with at about 3 minutes left they will be very dangerous. The other thing about this team is that they have a relentless defence and as sikeston showed cape in football this year defence wins championships. Also watching this vj team last year (the few times I saw them) They can fill it up from beyond the arc. And if anyone saw borgia fill it up the last 2 years and win state 1 time and become the runner up the other. You will know how dangerous a great shooting team is. Cape will be good again this year but with home court advatage nobody would beat sikeston.
So these two new big men, coleman, and jamison, who didnt even play varsity last year, are just gonna step in and lead you to a state championship?? right. the cape faithfuls that said youre gonna beat us the 1st time are just being logical. 2 of our 5 starters are out and were gonna have inexpierenced gaurds stepping on in a big game..im not saying its an automatic loss..more like if you have a chance of beating us thats your best hope. and with boerboom james lane and tj tisdell down low idc what scrubs you have stepping in, it aint happenin.curtis is no lebron james, hes not even bobby hatchett but hes right up there..with him controlling the game and yao mings compared to your midget mcgees. lets just say good luck
They could very well lead us to a state championship, they beat lasts years varsity and hung with them everyday in practice.. They've put in probably 3x the work this summer then anyone, else around.. They could have started on any other team probably.. and yes they will br small but no smaller then last year and probably more skilled.. They have improved their shooting a ton and corey will drop set dunk on cape,curtis will be good, but he wont make a team, and those big guys will be good if they are able to run the court the entire game, and how is capes depth? I've only heard of their starting five and from your view on their first game against sikeston, they cant be very good.. I dont think anyone is realizing how much they have improved this summer, but well see soon enough, once the football players are 100% its ov, which shouldnt take long..
Semosports it was a joke anyways, but idk retirement would allow a lot of travel?
cape has more depth than the deep blue sea. and noones saying curtis is leading us to victory..we didnt have him last year and everyone saw that result..
That was extremely low, but you'll see
Repping that Central shirt hard in your pic on facebook. We see your true colors.
Its a tiger classic wrestling shirt, look how ripped i am!
and semosports, i have mad respect for that last part of what you said about ND
My avatar will be complete after i go to the graphic art class tommorrow, the war is on!
that pictures from at least the 7th grade..
These pictures are crackin me up right now.
This thread officially took a turn for the inappropriate. I deleted several comments. Please refrain from that line of discussion.
JungleStud, you know better...tisk, tisk...
Resume relevant basketball talk please.
I tried to make one but my computers messing up, but i've got a pretty good idea, and its all for fun, except junglechoad..
did my last post get deleted?
I think on accident, i didn't see anything wrong with it?
o nevermind i didn't see rachel's comment.
but still don't understand why...
Me either, ctjungles, i got some respect for y'all know, id still watch you drown but at least id take my foot off your forehead... I find this pretty funny hahaha
I just wanted squash physical appearance discussion. Although your comment on it's own wasn't bad it was a continuance of a bad string of comments that I wanted stopped.
However, you probably would've gotten away with it if you hadn't thrown in the ND jab... :)
my pics stright out of 9th grade
I don't understand your comment or what it is in response to, inspectorgadget, but let's be honest...
Do I need to delete it? Haha.
Im still sittin here crackin up about the picture you put up dude.
lol...still trying to figure out who you are CL but i got a pretty good idea.
Its pretty obvious
Inspector how are you going to ask if our big men can run the court the entire game?? I believe it's pretty obvious they are in wayyyyyyyy better shape then Corey...so shouldn't the question be, "can Corey run the court". Highly doubtable..
Corey has proved it the last 4 years he can get up and down the court. Just like he helped the Dogs go up and down the field on Cape. He's an athlete. Don't underestimate him.
Like i said you name the sport and corey could win
"Is this a basketball or football forum? Could you tell me BW23?"
Oh, it's basketball. No doubt about it. But here's the thing. Sikeston hasn't practiced yet. They may not until the first week of games.
All the talk going on here is reminiscent of the crap leading up to the SHS/Cape game(s), although most of you shut your mouths prior to the rematch/"revenge" game because you knew the whooping that was coming. And all it is now is crap.
Nobody outside of Cape cares about how good or bad Cape will be in basketball. Not in the conference. Not in the district. This is particularly true of Sikeston fans and the Sikeston team. Maybe they'll be good. It's about time. They've been one of the biggest disappointments in all of Southeast Missouri for a long time now.
Go ahead and keep on ragging on Corey or Howard or whoever you want to pick on. At least these guys have proven they can win in any sport they play and at high levels in each sport. All you're doing by talking about them is proving your low level of sports understanding and your low level of maturity. Go down the hall and ask some of your buddies how good of athletes these two (and all of the Sikeston athletes) are. Go ask big mouth Bird how good Corey is, assuming he's over the beating he took last week.
Maybe one day when you grow up you'll realize just how many people are laughing at you guys. I doubt it, but there's a slight glimmer of hope.
I think Corey has been running the court since he has been playing considering thats the way Sikeston plays, how can you say that Cape bigs can run the court with the way they walk the ball up the court and play a half court offense 99% of the time. We played them 2 years ago and they were losing by 13 points when the 4th quarter started and would not come out of the zone, we stood at half court and held the ball for 4 minutes before they would come out of it. You really have to be able to run the court to do that.
He might be the last one down the court but at least when he gets down there he is able to contribute to the team on both the offense and defensive end of the court.
ct, you've gotta stop going after the athletes themselves. Making an assumption about Corey based off his weight is just moronic and immature. No one is attacking a Cape player for a certain feature about them so back off the dude. He's one of the most athletic guys in the area, especially for his size and his stats last year show it.
He's also basing this on previous years and not taking into account what incredible shape Corey is in right now. If I had to guess, I'd say he's at least 40 pounds lighter than last year.
He is in much better shape, I noticed that the first Cape vs Sikeston game. Why attack Bird, he made a comment in the paper about winning state. Is that not what every player on a good team wants to do and if they believe in it they will have the confidence to say it. Bird has been attacked for his comment and I don't know why because every dedicated player on both Cape and Sikeston teams this year thought the exact same thing and Sikeston players still are.
High school sports change way too much between years to bring up anything from a previous year unless it's pretty much the same team. Cape has pretty much the same players minus a gaurd and adding a few more but they all have more experience.
Why hasn't the rest of the Sikston team been practicing? I was favoring Sikeston to win the conference tourney but if they make it to the state championship in football and only have a week of basketball practice I just don't think they will be able to do nearly as well. I don't care how much time you spent together as a team over the summer if you're away from playing organized basketball together for a few months it will have a dramatic effect on how they play.
The rest of the team has been practicing. Will, Kilron, Eldridge, Terry, Keldon, Caleb, and Vashawn are still a pretty decent nucleus of players who are going to be ready for game one. When you hear that a guy could start on almost any other team in the state, these are some of the type of guys you would expect to see. Once Darryl, Janiel, and Corey are back on basketball legs, they'll be even better.
Corey's been attacked. All I did was say that Bird had a big mouth. But I also fault Payne for some of that as well, and I love Payne. He lets his players talk way too much. I agree that every player wants to win state. I would hope that most players think they can win state at the start of the season. But you don't say it to the paper, and you don't say you'll go undefeated. You certainly don't tell them they can write it down, either. Not that I think Sikeston's players needed any motivation to get up for Cape, but it's disrespect to Sikeston for him to say that....even if it was week 1. And, while I'm biased, Corey and the rest of the Sikeston line (both sides) destroyed Cape's....including Bird. I'm sure Corey (the best lineman in the area, IMO) and the others took pride in doing that based on Bird's comments.
And while the others have been practicing, I agree with you in that it will take some time for the team to gel once the other guys start practicing. When you have 3 starters who may not get to practice (hopefully) until the first week of games, it's going to take time no matter the talent. They have enough talent to still beat most teams, but the SEMO Conf tourney could be difficult. They didn't have much time practicing last year before winning the tourney with the same amount of key guys missing (with obviously Howard and Hatchett having full practices since they didn't play football).
Lemme see if I can bring some sanity to this wildness:
Last I checked, those who wound up in the top 4 @ the SEMO tourney usually did well in February, and lately that has been either Sikeston, Bluff or Jackson.
I would love to see Sikeston and Cape go at it for a district crown, but that won't happen for a good minute. Both teams have a strong shot to go at least to the sectionals in their classes.
BTW, if you didn't notice, Lane of Cape shaved his locks off. No Samson crutch in his game whatsoever. The JV PG replacing Cassasola could be another scrapper in the making as well.
As for Sikeston, could be the Porter & Hatchett Show Part 2... just sayin.
New Madrid has been in the top 4 the past couple years too. Even playing for the chapionship a couple times.
My cousin works for nmcc and he hasn't really been talking trash to me about their basketball team this year, idk what kind of talent they have back, kony and jenkins were the key parts right?
and just because they've been playing football their number two sports on their list doesnt mean they havent been playing anykind of basketball what so ever, it wont take them long to bounce back.. I cant wait to see how much better they'll be this year
Yeah New Madrid should be down this year.
SEMO Conference championship game results....
'06 Charleston 79, Sikeston 72
'07 Charleston 63, Jackson 56
'08 Sikeston 64, NMCC 44
'09 Sikeston 69, Poplar Bluff 64
The SEMO Conference Tournament will be seeded Monday night the 22nd....any guesses on seeds??
I would think:
After reading all these comments i have just one question...How is sikeston going to be better than last years team when they lost their 2 best players? Because anybody that saw any Sikeston game last year knows that if Wiggins or Jackson wasnt facilitating the offense nothing happened. Cape figured that out and beat them. Cape returns 4 starters plus a transfer guard that is close to being as good as Jujuan Bell and Bell dribbled right around anybody that sikeston put on him. Cape. Cape also plays defense, the only defense that sikeston plays is when they press and its not even that hard of a press to break. Cape shredded the press and scored 75% of the time. And if we are talking about a strong shooting team Cape has to be on the top because of Williams, Branch and a "JV standout who will lead them to a title". Corey is a load in the post and he has a shooting stroke but he is the only post presence that sikeston has. Lane, Boerboom, Tisdall and Espinoza are 4 quality bigmen that cape can throw in the mix and everyone of them has a different strength that they bring to the court.
It will be one of the best games of the year no doubt. The Jungle will travel and the Bums will be supporting their team. I personally hope that both teams suffer no injuries prior to the game so that the game will live up to all the hype that has started before either team has tipped off in a real game.
They werent the 2 best players.
And where did Bell take them?
I don't remember Bell doing much against Sikeston. What good is dribbling around people if you can't score?
Jackson wasn't one of the two best players. Wiggins probably was, but I thought he was much less effective last year playing in the post than he had been the previous two years running the point. While he could take over a game (see ND in the district finals or even the Farmington game after that), there were many games last year where he was less of an impact than before.
I'd say any of the other three starters were more important than Jackson.
Where will the JV "stars" take you???? Darryl, where did he take you? and all the other starters? Did you even make it past cape central last year? NO you didnt
The Cape game was one little blemish. One little hiccup. Sikeston still won the conference and won the district again. Did Cape do either?
Central beat every team in the conference when they played them later in the year. Did sikeston play in as hard of a district as cape? no not even close.
Cape couldn't get past Jackson in the district semis. That's the game that matters more than any of those conference games. I know they would have traded every conference win for a chance to play PB for the District Title last year. And, I wouldn't call that district a really tough district. Sikeston, ND, and Dexter would all match-up fine with Cape, Poplar Bluff, and Jackson last year.
Not a tough district????
Yep, it was harder. Sikeston wiped out all the teams in Cape's district so that district wasn't that hard.
Doinwork, incorrect again. Cape followed up their first victory in years over Sikeston with rousing conference losses to a short-handed Charleston team and a powerful Dexter squad and then lost in the first round of districts to Jackson. Boy they really turned it on down the stretch!
Caleb McGee will be one of the best players in the area this year. tenacious defender, lights out shooter, and plays 6'11" even though he's 5'10".
Caleb plays bigger than 6' 11". 6' 11" couldn't contain him in the low post...
Ok, seriously, he can shoot, though...
Where did darryle take us? Way farther then the first round of districts and so they lost a tough game to a powerful borgia team, just another ignorant cape fan
Caleb McGee one of the best players in the area is hilarious he wasnt even a good shoot last year throw up like 2 airballs vs Central...inspectorgadeget dont talk about being ignorant i looked up the definition of ignorant and it said inspectorgadget.
I agree. I thought that show Inspector Gadget was pretty ignorant myself. Cant believe i watched it when i was younger
Ctjungle that was soo orignal, read doinworks posts and then read mine, mine have some sort of reason behind them, and he will contribute to sikeston beating cape
I love how the Central folks keep referring back to the Cape game last year. Any unbiased person could tell that was Sikeston's worst game of the year. So basically your just proving how much better Sikeston was than Cape because the Bulldogs played their worst game of the year and Cape STILL barely won.
I'll make a statement that somebody said about the reason Cape had a bad game against SIkeston in football this year..."good teams force others to have bad games."
There should be an age limit to post on this website...cause most of ya'll are acting like 3 year olds! Grow up!!!
I believe that the Jackson Indians r goin to shck everyone at the semo conference tourny. Cape is gonna be without this so called amazing guard and the sikeston boys r not gonna have a ton of practice time especially if they win today it's gonna be the Indians that bring home the crown
Everyone better watch out because Jackson's going to shck everyone. Seriously who does Jackson have other than Clark and McDowell.
Sikeston will get plenty of practice now..
running man please tell me how clark, McDowell, and zach efron are going to win the conference tournament??
zach efron hahah
WOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!LET'S PLAY BASKETBALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Time out all! I want to say good luck to all the teams in the SE area and may you all play your best. Players, as you see in a blog , some people get carried away with what could possibly happen and the season has yet started. Please remember all these comments are stated on the biggest two letter word in the dictionary, and that is what they are saying. To post how and what a team is about before playing is using an "IF".
Welp, "IF" I was a seer as you all are, I would have to say that ya'll need to kick back and watch a few games before eating a basketball shoe or two. Summer sessions doesn't mean much when you have players playing football. Some of the "best" of last year may have lost a step or two for the the ones that have matured.
I"ve enjoyed your comments, but we are close to seeing what is and what was.
ENJOY THE SEASON ALL! I KNOW I AM READY FOR AN EXCITING YEAR FOR THE SE REGION NO MATTER WHAT DIVISION!
Darryle is a boss. Its just gonna be the same thing that has happened the past few years. Sikeston beats mostly everyone they play, excuses are made, we go to the playoffs, others cry, everyone leaves happy.
Rachel do you know the seeds for the SEMO Conference Tourney i heard they were coming out tonight?
When is the last time Cape won football, or basketball district titles? Just wondering
Last time Cape won a basketball district was in 97 under Brett Reutzel. The last football district title was in 06.
King James when was the last time sikeston had to go through studs like the hansborough brothers? Cape had a great team bens senior yr but it's tough to stop a D1 stud
Sikeston has had to go through Notre Dame (with Division I Ryan Willen and a likely Division I Jacob Tolbert). They've had to go through Dexter (with Division I Brett Hale and Division I Alan Flannigan) and they've had to go through NMCC (with Division I Dereke Tipler). Any other questions?
I saw that Cape team in '06...they were far from great. Very talented, but undisciplined and underachieving. Sikeston beat Poplar Bluff Ben Hansbrough's senior year and they also wiped the floor of Cape on the road that year. Cape had their chance in districts against Bluff on their home floor, but lost in a blowout. The technical foul in the first 5 seconds didn't help.
semohoops, Sikeston might have "gone thru" Dexter/Hale and NMCC/Tipler but I don't recall them beating them, or did they? I think running man means going through district wise. Your point with ND is right on, but not Dexter/NMCC b/c they were both class 3 schools. Also, speaking of back then just think: IF NMCC hadn't have been in the same district as Dexter then I think Dexter probably would have won state as well. Talk about bad luck. Awesome teams!
Sikeston was a Class 3 school (in the same district at Dexter with Hale, NMCC with Tipler, Kennett, etc.) for two years until the state department expanded and made it a 5-class system, at which time Sikeston became a Class 4 school. Sikeston defeated Willen his sophomore year on their way to a 2nd place finish to Borgia. They also defeated Flannigan's Dexter team last year. Sikeston has had to "go through" numerous good teams with Division I athletes on many occasions in district play and through the playoffs.
Anyone know the seedings yet?
Sikeston had two state championship caliber teams in '07 and '08 but ran into those loaded Notre Dame teams that took 2nd and won state those years. Bad luck right there too but that's part of it. Just get better.
Who didn't beat Dexter last year!
semohoops, I didn't realize that Sikeston was 3A then. Then again, I can still remember listening to the game when they called the bogus over-the-back call on some kid from Sikeston (maybe McClinton's year) against ND. Couldn't remember if they were 3A or 4A then either, I'm guessing 4A.
BIGELW, I was just answering the guy's question about Division I players.
Sikeston was Class 4 the year of the bogus over the back call, one of the great injustices of our time. He was over the back alright....of one of his own teammates! That was in '03. ND went on to lose to DeSoto, a Final 4 team that year that Sikeston had demolished earlier in the year.
That was Lavar Morgan that they called for over the back in that game. His brother, Andre was also a solid player for Sikeston from 1998-2000.
The Joby Holland led NMCC Eagles were a machine from 2000-2002. They just missed the 3-peat when they lost by two to MICDS. They definitely didn't play their best in that ballgame.
Yes, Morgan was over the back of McClinton, lol....foul against Sikeston. Wave off the game-winning shot. Game over. It took a while to get over that one.
I think the Hansbrough brothers played at a little higher D1 level than the others mentioned. One being a 4 time All-American, 2008 Naismith award winner (National player of the year), was voted in 2009 as the college basketball athlete of the decade by Sporting News, and national title winner at North Carolina, and the other being a pretty solid SEC/Big East player in his career. Just saying.
On the high school level, I'm taking Ryan Willen over Ben Hansbrough.
I'd take his attitude over ben's. Nothing else though. But to each his own.
semohoops, then why did he go somewhere quite a bit bigger than Ryan and excell. Nothing against Ryan because he's a great player and person off the court.
I can't answer that one. Ryan chose a school that was best for him and Ben H. did the same. I'm not saying Ryan was a better college prospect than Ben, I'm just saying if I was starting a high school team I'd pick Ryan over Ben. I understand what Ben has done in college...he's been great (as has Ryan). I'm just talking about the high school level. Is that so insane to think that?
We beat ben hansborough. And they weren't at PB for 14 or so years..nor did they play football..nice try though
#3 Notre Dame
yah-yah........the NMCC Eagles WERE NOT led by Joby Holland from 2000-2002, period. Lennies McFerren had that bunch from the time they were freshmen until they were juniors. Won 2 state championships with them, and then Joby took them when D. Tipler and company were seniors. Mac still sat over there in the stands and was just as much a coach then as he was when he was the head coach.
My fault, Hemingway. I was reading an old Standard Democrat article from 01 when Joby was head coach and assumed wrong. I totally forgot about Coach Mac - definitely not a forgettable coach, though. I guess that situation was similar to Kenyon Wright and Coach Cookson last season.
Does anybody know if that is going to be the same deal at SCC this year? I think it's great for everybody involved, the players still get the mentoring of Cookson, Coach Wright gets to keep learning from him while still being in charge of the team, and Cookson is able to stay invovled with the team.
Anybody have any box scores if Bluff's first 3 games? Who do they have coming back I know they lost Ralston, Greg Coble, and idk his name they called him Baby Shaq.
I know the Jays are no.4.Wow!!!!We just competed with two great teams at NMCC and those teams are legit when someone says they are good.I must admit,its seems like the past few years Charleston doesnt compete well in the Semo Con. Tourn. or the University High X-mas after playing some of the elite teams to start the season.We played well anough to win against North Little Rock,but would turn around and struggle with Woodland,not a cheap shot at you Cards,but im just saying.
I read about Sikeston destroying Bly. and they will be one of the top teams in the area again this year.I havent read or heard anything on Notre Dame yet.NMCC will only win playing scrappy.I havent heard anything on P.B. or Cape.Can someone enlighten me?
NMCC lost their 2 best players last year in jenkins and ealy and thats a big blow to their lineup. PB is prolly going to be physical like always with football players on the team. Cape does have biig group of guys but i dont know how many of them are true basketball players as opposed to just athletes. ND of course has tolbert, and yes surrounded by a small team. but they are more determined than last years team and will probably be even more physical. We are going to surprise those people already counting us out this year.
We only have 3 football players and only 2 of them see alot of playing time.
Jackson plays a schedule that would embarrass most class 5 teams. Leopold for Christ sake. The largest school in Southeast Missouri and they play tiny schools that beat them on a regular basis. If Jackson played teams their size they would never have a season above .500. If Jackson's basketball team was held to the same standard as their football team they might be a little more competitive
Nd brings back tolbert, thats about it.. they'll be good.. but i see sikeston or cape smashing them..
big inspector giving cape some credit?! uh oh i like i like!
Haha. BIGELW who's Bluff's top players this year?
I agree. They play some bad teams. Why not play some better teams. Yeah you might get beat, but at least you can get better. the only thing they are improving on is their record. This may be a reason they dont win anything worth bragging about in basketball.
Ya ND brings back tolbert obviously, but the players around him have gotten soo much better because of him. He takes time to help other guys on the team, and vice versa. Everyone plays together on that team. Its not a one man show like many teams around here, SCC and Sikeston in the past.
Well Sikestons team last year had close to 8 players average double digit scoring. I wouldnt say thats a one man show Mr. Beastmode!
I guess he's refering to when mike was here, but that team was extremely deep too, fondon wiggins jackson dixon howard hatchett porter evans sikeston is always pretty deep.. I just honestly cant see anyone beating them very bad this year, no one is unbeatable but they are just on a different level then last year..
And im sure ND is good, but just being good only gets you so far.. And tolbert is pretty much the only starter that would start on cape or sikeston, im sure they'll pull around come district time..
And i've never said cape was bad, they'll be straight this year, and the game between them is strictly pride because they arent in the same district or even class, so its all bragging rights..
But i hope all the hypes not like football, because well.. We all know how that turned out..
And sikestons handled their first two games pretty easy, not saying those are two tough as nail teams but even the players will tell you their not in basketball shape yet, in a couple more weeks they'll have their legs and they'll be rolling
And cal lane, inspector. He was great.
With all precursors other than Cape's title victory in Potosi behind us, time to start looking at some real predictions. No more semantics and derogatory comments, let's just say what we think. So here is my take:
Round One: Sikeston over New Madrid-Down year for the Eagles, no disrespect. I hope they still bring the fans as they are usually a spirited group.
Charleston over Jackson-I think the Blue Jays are a better than expected team this year though I'd have to say that about most of the teams so far. A lot of teams are very close in talent this year.
Cape Central over Poplar Bluff-I haven't heard much about the Mules this year but Cape is talented and the Mules are still rebuilding from a team that lost some very talented members. Perhaps BIGELW could provide some more insight.
Notre Dame over Dexter-I feel this game could go to either team as Dexter has definitely improved this year, and Notre Dame has not yet played a game. Losing Kellum, Helle, Koeppel, Maher, and a slew of other seniors is going to potentially cause some problems for this young team. Also, I think Flannigan vs. Tolbert will be a phenominal matchup though I will take Tolbert for this round.
Round Two: Sikeston over Charleston-The first meeting since "The Incident." I think that the Blue Jays are showing just too much inconsistency though they have the speed to potentially cause the Bulldogs troubles due to the "football legs."
Cape Central over Notre Dame-An interesting fact I noticed is that Notre Dame has never reached the finals of this tournament. I believe that the Tigers overall experience defeats the Blue Dogs and their star. Again, the lack of in-game experience for this young team will probably hurt them.
Finals: Sikeston over Cape Central-Anyone who's read my posts know I'm a homer. But I think Sikeston is also the better team. If there was ever a year that Southeast Missouri teams could make a run for championships in the larger classes, I think this is the year. Cape has the confidence and momentum early on to be contenders in the overall scheme of Class 5. However, Sikeston is a monster in Class 4 this year. Many are going to disagree but I've seen these guys play on varsity or JV in the past couple of years, and they really are the cream of the crop even with their lack of size.
I agree, I wish Jackson would quit scheduling those cream puff games like Nixa and McCluer North. Maybe if they got in the Potosi Tournament that would help them compete better with Poplar Bluff and Cape.
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