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Very Unofficial Semo Top 25, Part 7 (2/18/12)
Posted by Preacher Man Fan on Sat, Feb 18, 2012, at 9:45 PM:

Welcome back to the Very Unofficial Semo Top 25! We finished up another very exciting week of high school basketball here in Semo with plenty of surprises and upsets. We've had a few shake-ups this week as a result in the Top 25, esp. in the Top 10. So just a few words of explanation regarding the rankings this week.

Charleston holds on to the top spot this week despite losing their second game of the season to Cape Central this week. The Blue Jays have beaten the Tigers 2 out of 3 this year and remain the consensus top team in Semo. But Cape does move up to #2 this week on the strength of wins over Charleston, Sikeston, and Dexter to claim a share of the SEMO Conference regular season championship with Charleston.

As a result, Sikeston drops to #3 even with impressive wins this week over NMCC and Bernie. Notre Dame falls to #4 this week. I was tempted put Sikeston and ND in a tie for 3rd this week, but Sikeston's better record, higher state ranking, and victories over NMCC and De Soto who in turn defeated ND gave them a very slight edge in my view. I am sure ND's defenders can make some good counter-arguments, but that's how I see it at the moment. These two teams are likely to meet in the Class 4, District 1 championship next Friday, so we'll let them settle it on the court.

Kennett leapfrogged Doniphan this week by virtue of their victory over the Dons this week. These two teams will likely meet again in the semifinals of the Class 3, District 1 tourney at Bloomfield in a couple of weeks. Also, Holcomb cracked the Top 10 this week by virtue of going undefeated since Christmas and winning the Tri-County Conference Tourney over Risco. Holcomb won 2 of 3 over Risco this season.

The final spot in the Top 25 this week goes to Oak Ridge. I really struggled with this as it could have gone to a number of teams. Oran fell out of the rankings this week after going 0-3 recently. Of the bubble teams, I felt like Oak Ridge was playing the best, having won 4 of 5, so they make their debut this week.

Who's Hot: Cape Central, Holcomb, Leopold, Sikeston, Doniphan, Charleston, Notre Dame, Risco, Advance. (Holcomb and Leopold haven't lost in a month; the other teams have only dropped one game in three weeks; Cape qualifies just by beating Charleston and Sikeston back to back).

Who's Not: Dexter, Jackson, NMCC, Oran, SCC.

As always, you will find the teams previous ranking in parentheses. Once again, let me thank you for reading and responding, but remember to keep the debate on a high plane. See you next week!

1. Charleston (2)

2. Cape Central (4)

3. Sikeston (2)

4. Notre Dame (3)

5. Perryville (6)

6. Kennett (7)

7. Doniphan (5)

8. Portageville (9)

9. Caruthersville (10)

10.Holcomb (13)

11.Scott County Central (8)

12.Risco (12)

13.Jackson (11)

14.Leopold (15)

15.Clearwater (16)

16.Dexter (14)

17.Advance (18)

18.Poplar Bluff (20)

19.Scott City (22)

20.Bernie (19)

21.Hayti (21)

22.New Madrid County Central (17)

23.North Pemiscot (23)

24.Gideon (25)

25.Oak Ridge (-)

On The Bubble: Oran, Chaffee, Puxico, Malden, Bloomfield.



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Overall a very good list. I was honestly a little shocked to see Portageville beat NMCC, but it sounds like you knew what you were talking about. Should also be interesting if Kennett and Doniphan match up again.

-- Posted by bleacherking on Sat, Feb 18, 2012, at 10:13 PM

Thanks for the compliment bleacherking. I was pleasantly surprised that Portageville beat NMCC, but to me it was a question of consistency in picking them. The Bulldogs have been very consistent despite losing their leading scorer. NMCC has been anything but consistent this season.

I fully expect Kennett and Doniphan to meet again in the semifinals of their district tourney at Bloomfield. Should be another great game!

-- Posted by Preacher Man Fan on Sat, Feb 18, 2012, at 10:28 PM

Now there are 4 teams ahead of NMCC that they have beatin haha

-- Posted by BuckMajor on Sat, Feb 18, 2012, at 11:11 PM

I like how South Iron is less than 20 miles from Clearwater but not considered SEMO. Maybe them and Eminence knock out Leopold then you can claim them. Com on Preacher Man Fan,,,LOL

-- Posted by country-dude on Sat, Feb 18, 2012, at 11:22 PM

BuckMajor, NMCC has lost 4 of 5. Polls reflect where a team is at the moment.

-- Posted by Preacher Man Fan on Sat, Feb 18, 2012, at 11:25 PM

I don't consider SI, Clearwater, or Eminence as SEMO. They are just teams that are in the technical Southeast quadrant of the state.

-- Posted by sideline starter on Sat, Feb 18, 2012, at 11:28 PM

Country-Dude, I have said before that my poll only covers the teams covered by semoball. Sorry about that, but there has to be a limit somewhere. On the other hand, SemoSportsWeb casts a much wider net and they have South Iron currently ranked at #7 and Eminence at #21 in their Top 25. Good luck to both teams though. That district with both teams plus Leopold should be very exciting!

-- Posted by Preacher Man Fan on Sat, Feb 18, 2012, at 11:31 PM

Oh I know haha, please don't interpret me wrong, I think you have them positioned well in the poll, if not lower down. I was just commenting how commical and up and down of a season they have had, that they are the only team that has beatin 4 teams ranked ahead of them, and still are where they should be in the poll.

-- Posted by BuckMajor on Sun, Feb 19, 2012, at 12:28 AM

Looks Pretty Fair Preacher Man. The top 4 Schools are really tight this year.

Rankings 10-20 are also very tight. All of these teams are capable of beating up on any other on a given night.

Scott City has victories over Scott County, Advance and Dexter, but losses to New Madrid and Bernie.

We have not seen Risco, Clearwater or Holcomb play, but I suspect they are all right in the mix.

Overall, Nice Job!

-- Posted by UFO on Sun, Feb 19, 2012, at 8:59 AM

SC Locks up With Portageville on Tuesday. Should be a really good game.

What are some other good match-ups this week?

-- Posted by UFO on Sun, Feb 19, 2012, at 9:05 AM

UFO, thanks for the love! I will be posting my weekly "Key Match-Up" threads this week to preview the final week of regular season play and districts. The first one is planned for tonight. There are good games scheduled every night this week!

-- Posted by Preacher Man Fan on Sun, Feb 19, 2012, at 11:56 AM

Polls are not worth the paper they are written on. Just be glad this hasn't wasted any.. I look at it like this if you have any team ranked ahead of a team that could clearly beat them the poll is wrong. Examlpe Jackson can clearly beat Risco and Holcomb. Even Bloomfield beat Gideon and they aren't even ranked. Plus it makes no different. In the districts it will be the following it the top at the end of the year: Cape Central,Jackson Sikeston,Notre Dame Charleston, Bernie, Portageville, Advance, Risco, Scott County Central, leopold

-- Posted by bballfan40 on Sun, Feb 19, 2012, at 11:56 AM

Bballfan, how do you know Jackson can clearly beat Risco and Holcomb? You don't, you're just expressing an opinion, and so am I. Plus not all of the teams you named will make it out of districts. And just because an unranked team beats a ranked team doesn't mean they automatically qualify for the next poll. If that were true, Oklahoma St would've been ranked the week after they beat Mizzou!

Finally Bballfan, if polls are just a waste of time, isn't it just as much a waste of time for you to bother to respond to said poll?

-- Posted by Preacher Man Fan on Sun, Feb 19, 2012, at 12:24 PM

Who is this guy that says Clearwater is not a SEMO school??? Ridiculous.

-- Posted by tooldogging on Sun, Feb 19, 2012, at 2:50 PM

Sainte Geniveve, Iron, and Shannon counties are all part of southeast Missouri technically. So therefore Clearwater, south iron, and eminence are all semo schools. Preacher stated though that he only ranks schools covered by Semoball, which is what website were on, so that is fair enough in my opinion.

-- Posted by BuckMajor on Sun, Feb 19, 2012, at 3:16 PM

there is no doubt in my mind that jackson is better than any class 1 or 2 school in semo. they are probably better than most class 3 schools. they play the toughest schedule in semo aside from maybe cape central or bluff, and as a class 5 team they should. they are obviousy penalized by the number of loses. but they are certainly better.

-- Posted by GSP on Sun, Feb 19, 2012, at 4:00 PM

Was looking at Jackson schedule on their website Cape,ND twice Sikeston Vianney Jeff city,Lindbergh,Miller Career,Charleston,Webster Groves and Imagine Prep thats about as tough a schedule as anyone in their is in region,they would probably beat most any 1,2or 3a teams with the exception of Charleston. Kennet and C-vile would be very good games. Dont know how you could not have them as them as one ten best considering their strength of schedule

-- Posted by objective fan on Sun, Feb 19, 2012, at 8:00 PM

They wouldn't beat New Madrid either haha

-- Posted by BuckMajor on Sun, Feb 19, 2012, at 8:07 PM

Sorry, I was thinking ND. NMCC took Jackson to overtime twice. Wow they do play a hard schedule, never realized that before!

-- Posted by BuckMajor on Sun, Feb 19, 2012, at 8:16 PM

No Doubt Jackson plays a tough schedule. They Should, they are 5 A. What do they have 2,400 kids in the High School?

It is amazing to me, they are not more competitive. Most class 1,2 and 3 schools are flat lucky to have any kid over 6'2".

However, if they are having problems, they can always Annex some More!

-- Posted by UFO on Sun, Feb 19, 2012, at 9:03 PM

GSP, Objective Fan, I do give Jackson credit for playing a tough schedule. That's one reason I've ranked them relatively high all season. However, elite teams find a way to win some of those tough games and the Indians haven't done that very often this season. That's why they've dropped some in recent weeks. Charleston, Sikeston, Cape Central, and ND have found a way to win alot of the tough games on their schedule.

Also, I just think it's a fallacy to assume that the larger schools are always better than the smaller schools. Holcomb, for example, would match up very well with Jackson.

-- Posted by Preacher Man Fan on Sun, Feb 19, 2012, at 9:22 PM

Annexing won't help the bigger schools. It's the soccer, golf, swimming, wrestling, (not to mention the normal football and baseball) where the coaches try to get them to play year round. Soccer has taken several good players. Just read in the paper where two Jackson kids got soccer scholarships. Both were good basketball players at one time but couldn't do both.

Not making excuses for the big schools, but it does level the field somewhat with the smaller schools.

And Jackson and cape may have 2400 kids, but the st Louis schools probably have 4000.

-- Posted by Semo10038 on Sun, Feb 19, 2012, at 9:29 PM

I agree that some smaller schools would match up well with Jackson. Barely beat Leopold twice. Jackson only has two kids that played at all last year and they have struggled. Sophomores are learning, but still very young. Jackson only has two juniors as well.

-- Posted by Semo10038 on Sun, Feb 19, 2012, at 9:34 PM

Jackson has 1500 kids or so. Cape is around 1200 I think. There is no school in Missouri above 3000. In fact, I think the largest true enrollment in a school is around 2700 or so.

-- Posted by sideline starter on Sun, Feb 19, 2012, at 9:35 PM

Semo10038,

Point Well Taken about Multiple Sports.

-- Posted by UFO on Wed, Feb 22, 2012, at 6:53 AM


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