Semo is hiring a couple of assistant basketball coaches and I hear one of the front runners for the 1st Assistant/Assistant Coach is Sikeston's current head coach, Gregg Holifield. Rumor has it the job is his if he wants it... He was offered a position with SEMO back when Dicky Nutt first became Head Coach and looks like Nutt doesn't want to take no for an answer again. I think it would be a great move for Coach Holifield, but a HUGE loss for Sikeston.
Has anyone else heard or know if this is true?
Could be a HUGE opening in Sikeston if he does leave?
Pretty good info, Mac. You might want to check your sources again. You are late by about a month or so. I'll give you credit for trying to stir the pot, though.
Coach Holifield is a Sikeston Bulldog....unfortunately for all you Sikeston haters.
I would have to agree with Rocket on this... I actually heard he has accepted another position within the district "Dean Of Students" that shouldn't affect his coaching status at Sikeston.
I would only be able to agree with you on 2 things, Mac. Sikeston would be a HUGE opening and it would be a big loss for us and the program.
I thought Fred Johnson was dean of students?
Fred is retiring.
What does the dean of students do?? Don't think we had one of those back when I was in school
Dean of Students has the authority to put people on double secret probation
What's double secret probation?
Huh? Thinking ur pulling my leg? Dbl secret probation??
Fred Johnson is the current dean of students. He is retiring at the end of this school year. Coach Holifield has been offered that position and he has accepted. He will remain the varsity boys basketball coach as well.
As far as the duties of the dean of students....I'm not sure exactly. I believe it has to do with truancy and discipline issues.
Semo needs so much help that no coach in this area could make an impact....with the exception of maybe a Mcferren or Farmer.They bring out the best in kids when they seemingly arent going anywhere in their programs.Nutt needs to give it a rest an Semo AD needs to go out an recruit...Help is not on the way for SEMO.
Rocket, not sure how the initial post gives any hint of the guy being a Sikeston hater....???? Chip on shoulder, anybody?
Trust me Farm never a Hater.I speak truth something that doesnt like to be heard when it comes to my post.I find it funny how if someone isnt agreeing with what your saying then Haterism is spoken.I call it like I see it.SHS program has been running off pure talent.Plain and Simple...
Stlfan38, you don't speak truth. You spew lies and fabrications and you bash kids. It's a miracle you haven't been banned or suspended after some of the stuff you've posted. Your posts lack any credibility and would be laughable at best if they weren't so preposterous.
I am glad Holifield is staying, although I think he would be a great assistant coach and a really good recruiter, I feel his niche is at Sikeston. He is such a tremendous coach, and glad to see Sikeston was able to keep him there.
Dont hate...just laugh.. because thats what I do evrytime I glance at your post...You cant handle the truth...Thats why you get so heated when I speak..
I get heated at lies and kid bashing. I know that are pot-stirrers out there and understand how some get their kicks that way. But there are also lines you don't cross. Smearing kids and coaches reputations (when unwarranted) are lines you don't cross. How would you like it if somebody smeared your name publicly on the internet? Something to think about.
I personally dont care what u think are say about me.having an opinion doesnt make me a liar.I just speak on what I observe.If something walk like a duck and quacks like a duck should be a duck.Not here.Quack Quack.U have your opinion I have mine.Im not on your band wagon never will be.Get over it.When ay team looks well I say they do when they look bad i will say that too.Im not a hater just because i dont agree with you...Try again..HEATED in SEMO
You think because somebody doesnt like a style of coaching they dislike the coach.Not the case I just dont like the style of play.No different than me not liking Syracuse never met the coach just dont like his style of play.Thats like looking at Imagine coach OR Soldan never met these guys.In the game watching them changing different things to adjust to the game being played.I like that style not saying that I like them over Greg dont know any of them.I jUst like the style of play they use.
A great loss for Sikeston? A great loss for SEMO if he went there for sure!
Another disgruntled fan/parent with obviously incredible coaching talent. Only thing stopping them is reality.
I am obviously not from Sikeston, but how could you not like or argue with the program/style/success coach Holifield has had there?
Several reasons apply, whether its in Sikeston or any other school with disgruntled parents/former players etc. Holifield has not only brought succes on the court, but these players have gained respect from not only other teams and coaches, but from referees across the state concerning their behavior and sportsmanship. Holifield has groomed those boys into excellent young men. Talent may win, but in the long run, talent needs guidance and leadership, which he has provided.
Yes..."pure talent", that is exactly what I think of when I see the Bulldogs take the court... not at all. I see hard-working players that play within a system that is dictated by their coach. No star D1 athletes (with the exception of Porter a few years ago). I see players that buy into their program/coach and do whatever is expected of them. The style that Holifield plays has proven to be just what the dogs need to be playing. It has worked and worked well. He has great discipline, work ethic, and integrity. Sikeston would be at a great loss if they lost Holified but I can see him being very successful at the college level.
Dean of Students....fancy new name for Asst. Principal. He will handle discipline issues. Could be a term they use to get around certification, no sure...but other schools are doing it as well. He is an Asst. Principal.
gobler....you are probably right on the asst. principal definition. However, Coach Holifield does have his certification. He has been teaching in the Missouri school system for 20+ years.
He's probably referring to an administrative certification, Rocket
Or the point that if your an assistant principle you can not coach, right!?
Thank you gobler for answering my question.
Holifield has been an assistant principal and athletic director at Kennett, so my guess is he has his masters or specialist degree.
PBDC, excellent post and observations. I agree 100 percent. Holifield has molded a group of undersized kids, many of which aren't the most athletic or talented in the world, and has molded a powerhouse program that is a contender every single year. And it's not a secret formula. It's just putting in a lot of extra time, getting them in the gym as much as possible in the offseason and demanding nothing but incredible effort during the season and then playing a style that suits the talent that he is dealt. It's really that simple. He's using the talent that is walking the hallways and coming up through the system and developing his teams.
Ok, some people don't like the "style" that he has, whatever that means. As long as it is producing W's, and doing it the right way, that's all I care about.
Barkleyfan, I am not from Sikeston nor do I have a student playing. Just stating my opinion that it also the opinion of many others but you are blinded by the fact that Holifid is not all that good! Just sorry about that just ask some of the good coaches from this area.
Praiseman, wasn't initailly directed at you, but with your rebuttal, it has now. Name the good coaches please. I bet they are from Charleston(perennial power no matter who the coach), Anyone from SCC ( same scenario). Any others? I guess Sikeston should be playing man to man as well??? So that when they play teams that outsize them( which is every single team), they can be taken advantage of.
Most area coaches I've talked to give alot of credit to Holifield, and some said he gets as much or more from his talent pool than most area coaches. Sikeston has been more competitive during his time there than for many of the years prior to his arrival.
Semo7178, but are they "good" coaches, because apparently that is the determining factor. Semo is full of good coaches in my opinion, and they do a great job for the most part. For anyone to say Holifield is not good is absolutely unfounded. For those naysayers, check out Semo conference records against Sikeston in the last 8-10 years. If all these area coaches are sooo good then they should be dominating Sikeston night in and night out. No matter how the talent is good or bad, they obviously should be out coaching Holifield????
Semo, sorry this was not in any way directed at you.
It does exactly that.Help with a high school system.When the guys go to the next level you hear nothing else about them.Most of the ones I have seem have a hard time adjusting to college play because they have been shielded by the better players around them in high school that when they get to college and have to guard players from outside of the SEMO area they are left stagnated with their mouths on the floor or they dont play at all because they cant handle change.Meaning you never play man to man in high school You get to college and you are sitting the bench,or when you are on the court its proven that you werent as good as the band wagon told you,you were.Besides last years guys and M Porter what guys from SHS that played basketball are still in school are graduated from college playing basketball.NONE.Simply because they got to college and couldnt adjust.The class this year goin into college will do well because they work hard and want to learn how to better their game.Something that a SHS SYSTEM did not teach them.With the players SHS has had over the past 8-10 years they should have at least 4-5 state titles.Not just one.SHS will not win another title unless they are ten deep AGAIN.SAD to SAY.
join a different team to root for then. Otto Porter played zone his whole life. Not one lick of man. He seemed to do just fine, oh ya, he is 6'8 and extremely skilled. Makes the transition just a bit easier. Michael hasnt struggled because of his man vs zone defense, injuries and bulking up too much have hampered him. Stl get over your hatred, from whatever it stems, and either root for your school and team, or keep that hatred to yourself.
Most high school teams play zone. Borgia and ND, that is all they do. So how on earth do their players make adjustments to man to man in college? Go back through history of Sikeston basketball. Name me a list of basketball players that have succeeded and finished four years in college prior to Holifield.
Check Fred Johnson SHS team some have.Check One.Otto didnt play for SHS.Check two.I hate no one as I stated earlier im not a fan of the same oh same oh game after game.Thats me get over it.Out coached at every run to state with the exception of one year.Wow.If SHS meets Borgia in Farmington again this year they will lose again.Im sure if Mcgee is walking on at Three Rivers he will learn more there than he learned at SHS he has the build and the defensive to inprove his game.Coach Bess will get that out of him.Coleman and Jamison will learn more at Shawnee than they learned at SHS.Im sure D Howard is doin good at the Ozarks as well.Anybidy can be called coach.Coaches cant win without players who cant play.
Please name players from Freds teams that played 4 years of college bball? I dare say that that list will be 2 or less at best. Is that Fred's fault? No. Is it because Fred didnt prepare them for college? No. Its just simply the fact that its a different league of talent and Sikeston has athletic kids that have thrived well in Holifields system. Just look at the size of the kids? Not one kid over 6'2 in the last 3 years. But they have dominated the 6'8s and 6'10's they faced. Is called instilling a hard working mindset that transitions into success. I'm not quite sure the hang up you have, but I contend it has to be something of a personal nature. Any one can be called a fan, but thats where it ends.
I have the answer to that question barkley....none. So there goes that theory for stlfan
STL38, what you refuse to realize is that, yes, we have good players. Good, not great.
Every year, our kids go to these tryouts for colleges. Every year, we get the same story. "we like them. We just don't think they are quick enough, big enough, tall enough. They play hard, though!".....there just isn't a big market for 6'0-6'1 post players, which is what we have to trot out there.
The word I got after our 30-0 state tournament--one of the hardest working, best TEAMS they had ever seen. Unbelievable effort and intensity. And hard to believe that probably not a single college level player on it. This was almost a quote back then. But guess what, Holifield worked his butt off to get those seniors into college and that is exactly where they are now. Howard at College of Ozarks, Hatchett at UMSL, Holifield at TRCC and Porter playing football at SEMO.
This was told by a good coach at the higher level in college.
Personally, I'm sick of reading Stlfan posts.
I heard Hatchett was wanting to leave UMSL any word on that?
Just wondering where you played HS basketball? Did you play in college? Wasn't sure if you were a Bulldog at heart or what?
Also, in 2006 McFerren applied for the SEMO job and was quoted as saying that Holifield would be the first person he would hire as an asst. I think even "your" coaches recognize another quality coach.
If you don't want Holifield at Sikeston...we'll take him at Bluff!
Don't read them.I dont care. Played ball at Sikeston.I'm not on any band wagon. I'f SHS plays good kudos. I'f CHS plays good kudos as well as any other team kudos to them too. I am who I am it's my opionion and 1 state title in 10 years wow. Should have been more an until SHS has another 10 deep bench they won't win state in basketball. Maybe in Cheerleaders an maybe even football Gibbs will get them there.Basketball nope
So you played basketball at SHS, which means you didn't play four years of college ball. Why don't you practice what you preach?
I've figured out what needs to happen. You need to go to college and get your teaching degree and coach the Bulldogs to multiple state titles. Get back to me in 10 years and let me know how you've done.
Usually where the argument becomes excuses and fades away.......
Graduated college long before the this coach era.Check Fred Johnson squad get back at me.If you would read then you would see that in my prior post.LMBO.Nothing wrong with defending your friend.I dont like the system and yes this will become a broken record.If Mcferren said Holifiled would be better for the job its because Mcferren runs things his way.He doesnt have to use smooth words or a smooth look to get people to like him.
Not only can't he coach but he has to change his verbage and look? Wow his parents have failed him miserably. Check yourself sir. You failed to answer questions of players that played 4 years of college ball that has played for Sikeston before Holifield. That was YOUR accusation about him, not preparing players for college ball as to their demise and failure. If your disgruntlement is purely personal, keep it there. You have consantly badgered him now until the way he talks and dresses bothers you. I am finished with your banter and have figured out that this is merely a personal conflict you have. No other basis. The floor is yours, unless it doesn't meet your standards. Semo, all yours.
I don't know anything first hand but from what I see in the bleachers, Holifield does things his way! Has his players on their toes and is very strict on them. It seems that stlfan just doesn't like Holifield....nothing to do with his coaching ablitity.
Thought I'd put my opinion in here also. I think Holifield is a good coach if not the guys wouldn't play as hard as they do. The only thing I dont understand about his coaching is when someone is hot he pulls them out just to keep the fresh legs thing going on. The good thing about that is that everyone plays and so therefore they all get experience. As far as college ready if the player is really good they will adapt to the difference. I'm more of a fan of the zone style myself because the floor is covered.on man-to-man if your man gets by you your screwed cause everyone else is playing their man and there goes a basket. I know stlfan and I really don't think he personally has any reason to dislike him he doesn't have a kid that had played for him but if Holifield sticks around he probably will eventually.
Nope never said I dont like the guy.TFA I value your view from a ladies stand point..lol One thing about the zone it protects the slow kid that cant play man to man D.So if he gets beat he is beat.lol I know screens have alot to do with that but it also gets the players vocal and aware of whats going on on the floor.If a screen is coming they are talkin to each and become tighter as a unit because you know your team mates are goin to let you know.The zone is the blame defense guy shoots a three on your side its because you dont rotate and you get put on the spot.I agree forget fresh legs if the guy is hot he is hot.Most when they or playing and hyped they arent tired at all.If u got a guy thats has that stroke why ice him by sitting him.I agree.Alot of these boys that are playing or playing because of their roots.They come from families that love Basketball and the parents are working with them.So even if they dont play for the coach they playing for their parents.
That's why I liked to zone cause I was slow!! Lol!! We never played girl-to-girl always played our area which was good for me I didn't have to chase anyone they came to me!! Lol
To funny TFA.You see my point.lol SHS has to much quickness not to utilize it.Thats why my son is in the 4 grade playing with 6 and 7 graders.Im taining him early.Im hard on him but it will pay off for him.We will probaly be out SHS school zone when he get to high school TFA.Go ahead and cheer haters..lol Well TFA im signing off.
A team doesn't go 30-0 state champions and win at least 125 the last five yrs playing for their parents...that's playing for your teammates,coach, and school. You have no idea what others see in the dogs program. If you tell it like it is then who are you, when did you play because this style of ball has been around this area for a long time. I love watching sikeston play.
Stl. You also talk like they stand in a zone. Its a match up zone, they play man in their designated area which keeps your floor more balanced, inside guys dont get pulled out on perimeter. They pressure full court as well as half. You just don't understand the game. They put great pressure on the ball. Also allows him to utilize quickness as well as non quickness, example Corey porter became a great defender b/c of the zone. = great teams
You better not be moving out of SHS area when ur son makes high school he's pretty good now. That's ok I will talk to ur boss (wife) u won't be going anywhere. As for everyone else he comes from a family that played bball may not be a Name Brand family but they played.
Stlfan has a son that is a player? He will feel differently about negative posters that bash his team and coach. Coaches work hard to get their kids to buy in and bashing the program (wether you agree or disagree) only hurts the team. Sikeston has a great program, kids play hard, are class acts on the floor, and win. Couldn't ask for more as a fan in my opinion.
Mz 100 trust me i could careless and neither would my sn.It makes us better.I never said the boys dont play hard.SHS has nevr been a basketball town until porter came along.They were more into football and baseball.Now you got kids that play hard and fill the stands.There are alot of games i wouldnt have even went to if it werent for certain players.Some family some not.
So you don't care about the bulldogs as a team just a few players. That's really not the winning way.
However you call it.There is always a player or two on a team that u really like to see play and that has no bearing on the dislike of anyone.Down thru the years its not just SHS.I loved goin to watch a kid by the name of Sherrell from CHS a guard that really played well and the game didnt seem the same without him playing.I would say i like seeing Monroe from Cville a beast in the making.Yes I would love to see the team mates of Holifiield and Mcgee at Three Rivers against Coleman and Jamison at Shawnee I will make sure im there for that game.Just to see how they play on opposite sides of the ball.I picked them because none of the other guys I enjoyed watching play close to the area.I liked Cal Lane and his dunks.I liked Corey Porter and his inside game.I liked Darryl Howard and his stellar defense.I like W Holifield launching his threes.So please dont get it twisted Mz1.and I owe you 00
I'm just a bulldog fan and it seems we do everything better than everyone else at the 4a level and I get upset when there are negative posts wether about our team, players,or coach. State titles are hard to win especially at the 4-5 a level and I'm proud of the Bulldogs. They are a class act! A direct result of coaching (man or zone)
Everyone has their favorite players to watch and this year mine was Terry. The only time I enjoyed watching the team as a whole was the year we won state. They were so in sync it was beautiful to watch. They didn't get mad they acted like perfect gentlemen made me proud to be from Sikeston . I will always root for Sikeston but I do have my favorites.
Holifield and Mcgee won't play many min. That would be a game that they may get to play, most of the time Shawnee isn't very good.
well they both ended up with the same record last year 15/15...Three rivers blew them out.So i just thought it would be interesting BIGELW with a different roster and talkin to with some of the fans stating they really havent had a stellar guard since Dee Dee Gillispie.So with the freshman class coming in I tought it may be a better game.I will still attend just to see.It would be nice if SHS host the little showcase they did last year and have the two teams come.
Actually they may get a little more playing time since TRC only has 9 scholaships for the next 2 years. Going to have to get some walk ons to have a full roster.
Yea I think Mcgee is walkin on at TRCC.I forgot about the kid Carter at SCC says he is a really great shooter.So who know this could be a good year for them I think he is from CHS.
All I have to say is, you have to be a great program over time to be considered a powerhouse IMO... Powerhouses are built through the yrs & must sustain that level of play! The only argument I ever hear when people are defending holifeild is 30-0 state title or his record last 5yrs... It's just not enough to call him an elite coach...not saying he is a great coach but I think he gets way too much credit for that great team he had in '11...so he is in his 16yr & one state title & 2 conference titles, it jus doesn't jump out at me... Also I'm so tired of hearing it's harder to win in class 4,5... That's a bunch of bull, especially in this area when it's only sik, dex, nd & now Kennett in class 4... Class 3 has a lot more teams in this area than just about any other classes, so yea it may get harder once districts over it's always tough in class 3 just to make it out of districts so to say 4 is tougher I dont buy it... It's a cop out for when the bigger schools from area don't win or advance to state! Any class in any state is going to be hard to win state, to be the very best in state is not a easy thing to do, for those who say class 1-3 is easier needs to take a look at class 1 & 3 winner this yr... They both are powerhouses & has, for the most part has been competitive for over 20yrs or so... Have the hardware to prove it! We'll see just how great of a coach, holifield is in the next 4,5yrs... Was it the talent or the coach... We shall see..If this yr was any indication of things to come, sik is not going to be very competitive in class4 or semo conf....
Because having a record this year that ranks in the top three in sikeston history isn't competitive. Or losing by a point in the qtr final game means we weren't very competitive.
I'd like to hear your definition of competitive
Holifield has been at sikeston 14 yrs, All time winningest coach in sikeston history, teams have won 7 district titles, 4 conf titles, and a hall of fame state championship. The last 7 yrs averaged 23 wins per year and won 5 district titles. Not bad for a school not rich in basketball tradition.
Not rich in basketball tradition? Excuse me, were a powerhouse!
Ok I know sik shared conf title once & outright in '10... On districts titles only had to worry about nd... Lik I said the district for class 4 is weak at best! Ok if he's sik winninest coach great but he has also lost over 150games also... All I'm saying is 14yrs at a school & 9yrs in he starts to have success, is that a legendary coach? Maybe in sik... Again he is a great coach but let's hold off on legendary status. Looking at this subject, my argument against his 23 win avg & hof season & etc is that also in 14yrs he's made 2trips to final four... Are we playing for 20wins or trying to be number at the end of season...& please don't use the class 4 argument!!! Heck class 5 can say class 4 is weak does that diminish one goals for winning state? Ijs...IMO it doesn't matter what class if you are the best at the end, then you've earned it, small or large schools... You still have to play the game... And for the record I'm taking Dave neirer from Borgia over any other coach in state in class 4... Why body of work plus hardware!!!
He Hate Me I have said the same thing.14 years one title.wow.SMH.With the stellar players that have come thru this program in 14 years I would say 5 titles would be great.Im not satisfied with 1.Looks like that will be all that can be said until another 10 deep bench is produced.LOL.The kids go out and play hard I give them that but its only so much a player can do when they are limited on offense and defense.Same old thing night after night.So obvious that other teams know your play better than you do.Its funny how you hear WORK WORK WORk when you up by 25.But when the game is even or down 2 its silence like what do I do.Like the movie groundhog day.SAME O SAME O game after game.I know SHS wont make it out of Farmigton if they play BORGIA again.The brackets will have them there meetimg again.
Stlfan, you make it sound like sikeston is trotting out Otto Porter, the Hansbrough brothers, Ricky Frazier, Lamont Frazier.....no D1 players just hard working players. Maybe this 4 th grade bunch will get them over the hump. Go find another team to associate yourself with. Your posts, once again are hilarious. Go Bulldogs, in spite of Stlfan ,who is not a team guy
Let's go ahead and call a spade a spade. Stlfan is ignorant. He has zero knowledge of what actually goes on in holifield's program nor the game of basketball in general yet he tries to act as if he has all the answers. If you truly tell it like it is like you say you do then who are you? Tell me so I can learn your coaching methods. Until this gutless boy tells me this we should all refer to him as John wooden because he is, as we all have come to know, gods gift to coaching!
I didn't realize Holifield had been at Sikeston for 14 years. It seams like only yesterday he was run out of Senath. In hind hind sight his record is not that impressive. Just my opinion.
He wasn't run out of senath he developed dominant programs in both basketball and baseball and then was offered the Kennett job and took the opportunity to jump to a bigger school. If you know anything about the schools holifield has been at you know that in every one he took desolate programs and turned them around and put them back on the right track.
DUHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH I said the boys played hard.Call me what u want.I will be coming out with my demo SHS LIVE 2013.Get a copy so we can have a virtual game and play how we want.LMBO.
Your a boy nothing but a punk little kid running his mouth of course you would want to play video games.
WOW! I would hate to be a coach these days. Shocking what you all are saying about Holifield. There are plenty of people you could say negative things about from my perspective he seems to be a class act.
Only downfall of these boards. Opinions and differences of those opinions are one thing, attacking an individual for personal reasons is another. On to the next topic. This one has been beat to death.
We also need to keep in mind that stlfan is ONE person. There are 16,500 people in Sikeston that love Holifield. The one guy that doesn't is on the message boards. Fans that hate him from other towns is a compliment in my opinion.
Same types of things were directed toward Danny Farmer when Charleston won no state titles during the days of Ashton Farmer, Kewain Gant, Marcus Biles, and company...those teams made final four appearances every year but never won a title.....some Charleston folks, and many from surrounding communities, were criticizing Farmer for not winning it all.
Could point Birdfan, Charleston has such basketball tradition, I'm sure people were worked up. Holifield, on the other hand has taken the Sikeston program to a different level. In a lot of ways, it's amazing what he's done.
Oh Well.One title says alot.If SHS wasnt running ten deep they woudnt have won that plain and simple.Trust me I am very grown.I stand by my views.At the end of the day my views matter to me and for you to be turning red with such anger just provides me with the satisfaction of being a correct.LMBO.When Holifield coached Kennet Fred Johnson boys ran them out the gym.One of the great coaches for SHS.Coach Fred Johnson took SHS to state in class 5A when Vashawn High School was the powerhouse.Before the Porters moved to SHS,SHS were averagibg 10 wins at best a season.Of course coach Porter brought his well coached boys into town from SCC and SHS went to state that same year lose to Borgia.No way would they have gone without the Porter boys.Then what happens the next year lose from not covering the the guy for Notre Dame that took the ball out hits a three an lose districts.Next two years lose to Borgia,Win a STATE title,Lose to Imagine Prep.Next year we will see if SHS can beat Notre Dame or Kennet in districts.
Stl did you play on that final four team?
Stl, You have to be the most negative person that I have heard on semoball. What gives you the right to say these things about a coach. What have you done to warrant that kind of power. Leave it alone. It seems to me that his players love him and respect him so you should show respect as well. I can't understand this obsession of yours. Bluff had great years when the Hansbrough boys were there but there has to be a quality coach in place to insure success. Yes the Porter boys came to town but dear Lord they weren't NBA stars! We all know in this area that Charleston and SCC have had undeniable success and no one is taking that away from them. They have had great coaches as well, just as many other school and programs in the area. Let us know when your team is playing because I know that there are many of us that would love to come and rip your team and coaching apart.
stl there must be something eating at you. Care to share what it might be? Maybe we can form a support group and help you. Is it that you want to be a coach? Did you not get to play much when you were in school? Did your team not win the State Title that according to you is the only way to measure the success of a coach and players. What is it stl? let us know so we can help.
I'm not a big fan of Holifields coaching style either but who has a better overall record the past 10 years? I'm quessing not many. As for saying Sikeston only won cause they went 10 deep, you might as well say SCC only won because of Otto Porter or Popular Bluff won because Tyler Hansborough and Charleston only won because they out-scored they're oppenent. Teams win because of either a couple of players or like in Sikestons case, alot of them.
I love Sikeston's style of play. When they were playing in the state title game in 2011, Mike Anderson made his team go the game because he loved how Sikeston played...Great system
I have watched Holifield's Sikeston teams play over here for years and if I remember correctly his teams used to ALWAYS play man to man defense. It seems to me that he has changed his style as a result of personnel. Usually that is a sign of a good coach in my book.
"If you try to please the fans, you soon will be sitting with them." I doubt if Holifield would give one thought to Stlfan's comments. Probably laugh and go on about his business.
That is all they did the first 7 years or so he was here. Man to man and a slower offensive pace because the skill level of the players was not very high. I remember they had some games in the 30s. But that was the style they had to play because they couldn't put it in the basket. It was a much more deliberate game. Can you imagine if they scored in the 30s today? Or even the 40s or 50s? The offensive skill level began improving and with that a change in coaching philosophy. Who is to credit for the improved skills? Everybody. The players deserve credit for working at it and Holifield deserves credit for getting them in the gym constantly.
Scott Central made the zone press and up-tempo game work for decades, so who is to argue with that formula? For those that don't like Holifield's coaching style, you probably aren't a fan of Ronnie Cookson's coaching style. It is very similar philosophies and the same basic principles.
I agree Sikeston has a great system but i think you have to also be able to change it up.Same system isn't always going to work when you get in the playoffs
Me make sense SEMO says less skilled players played man to man because they couldnt put it in the basket.Sounds like they may be the reason why unskilled wearing yourself out on the defense surely wil effect your offense sounds like they should have been playing zone.LMBO.Oh absolutely nothing eats me.I played very well went to the military and left with honors so i have nothing to hang my head about.When a strong minded man voices his view you cant get mad because you voice yours as well.Like I said I dont like the system BUT I LOVE HE KIDS.THANK YOU VERY MUCH BIGELW.Nothing wrong with change every now and again.Maybe the schools in the conference cant deal with it but you better believe the playoff teams will have watched film and see that SHS doesnt deviate a change from the beginning to the end of the game.Cookson had great players to alot that you dont find in 1A schools.Those guys were 5A athletes all the way.Funny how some of the same guys that played at SCC lived in Sikeston and drove to SCC everyday.Now if anybody cared like the Bell City an SCC rival then several of their star players would have been playing for SHS and who knows what could have been.
Is your favorite place to eat BWW?
Stlfan38 are you on drugs or just crazy? The rambling is incredible. I think Holifield has become more of a player talent coach and less of a X's and O's man he has had much more success since he did that. Please don't send some lame text that means nothing----Please!
stlfan here's some reading material that I thought you might be interested in. http://www.coachesclipboard.net/MatchUpZ...
Being grown and having your own views doesn't make them anywhere close to being correct, stlfan. And, vertical, trying to reason with this guy will get you nowhere. He's always right and you're always wrong.
What's the ole' saying..."if you argue with an idiot, they just drag u down to their level and beat you with experience." Just sayin...
You're right yah-yah and barkleyfan.
Since when is it wrong to have a different opinion than everyone else?? I think ya are grown men?? Not sure. Do u call everyone names who doesn't agree with yours?? This is a forum where u can discuss views and opinions right??
You all are so into trying to turn my words around that it is to funny.I never ever said I didnt like the coach.I said i didnt like the style.If the style works so be it.My goodness.With the skill level and talent it has worked.Kudos.As well as some of the other posters saying they didnt particularlly like the style.No im not on the bench coachs do what they want and how they.So if a fan of any kind wants to voice an opinion they can.I never attacked his character.Praiseman get in were you fit in you suck on every pacifer thats put in your mouth.You can make a statement and have someone disagree and you come back and recant with some excuses to why you said what you said.pla-eze.Its like me watching coach Day I like his system unforunately he doesnt have a bench full of skilled kids.He is up on every play trying to direct and put something together.Does that mean he is not a good coach no.Same is Holifield not saying he is not a good coach but your job is always a little easier when you have skilled kids that come in and dont have to be taught the 1st grade fundamentals.That is all I am saying.You people act like im plastering his personal life are character on here when the only FACT of my comments or I DONT LIKE THE STYLE.Thats life im sure evryone has something they dont like but go along with because you cant change it at the moment.Im sure if you had the opportunity to do so you would.So please get over it.every program has highs and lows.SHS is riding high right now.20 wins season are great.Championships make you greater.We will seehow the season goes.Im gonna still come to the game Im gonna still cheer Im gonna yell at the refs eat my popcorn chant winning team losing team,I beleive that we will win all that.At the end of the day I will still voice my opinion.
Haha after realizing who stlfan is, all the posts make me laugh
Sikeston fans at thee best. Stay classy.
Mule is a great judge of character, FYI.
Heaven forbid someone defend their hometown coach.
Stlfan we now know who you are and to know that you are seemingly a close friend of holifields! Its a shame!
True colors shine through, according to cyndi lauper. Stl u should b ashamed of yourself. Check yourself. Your fan card will b revoked by Bulldog nation, which apparently u aren't part of.
I guess we have a different opinion of talent, but I thought NMCC has had some talented kids come through. All three years Kony Ealy was there they had some good players. Josh Minner, another 6-5 athlete right there. Jenkins. They were loaded. That group is considered the most talented they've had since the Tipler group.
I just don't understand how you don't like the style? That's the style that won your towns team their state championship. Yeah theirs not very many adjustments, but why adjust something when it's worked almost every other game? The Imagine prep game wouldn't have mattered what style of defense we played, they played the game of their lives. And I'm 99% sure, that if you were the coach you wouldn't be able to do as good of a job as coach.
You can have your opinion, but that doesn't mean I have to agree with it, and you can say you weren't talking bad about him but it's obvious there's some reason as to why youve ranted about all of this.
There have been countless hours spent in the sikeston gym. Holifield having them shoot 1000 shots a day, camps in the summer, open gym in the off season. Holifield has developed players. Ask Will, Terry, Caleb, Kilron , Vashawn how many shots coach has had them shoot and the time he has had them in the gym. Holifield is smart, adopted system like Coach Cooksons and adapted it to his own. The more I watch bball the smarter I think Cookson was.
I've kind of been on the sidelines a few days. It actually amazes me that stlfan38 is a fan. You should probably find another team. We don't need anymore "fans" like you. You have constantly badgered and belittled kids....let me say it again....kids....this past season. You should actually be ashamed of yourself. One of your threads actually got deleted because of your vitriol. To read his posts, it's pretty easy to see that he has an ax to grind with Coach Holifield.
Do you think that Coach Holifield makes adjustments during the game? During the district final game, Sikeston made an adjustment. ND was killing us from the high post. Coach Holifield instructed the post player to rotate up and stop the entry pass to the high post and defend the shot. Normally, the offside guard drops in to protect the high post area, but ND was beating that scheme. That sounds like an adjustment to me. It led to the 4th straight district title. Oh yeah....those are easy to win...I forgot. There are others, but that is the one that comes to mind.
Besides that...why would a coach change what they have been doing all year....very successfully...to something you haven't practiced??? YOU DON'T!! You prepare and tweak things, but you can't make wholesale changes. There isn't enough time to prepare in the playoffs. Besides...at state, you might have one day between games. During the games leading up to state, you may have 3 days. Do you think the Heat or the OKC Thunder are changing the premise of their whole offense or defense during the playoffs? No, because it would be silly. Why would they change what got them there? Is Haslem going to start running the point? Is Westbrook going to start playing the 5? Are the Lakers going to start a 2-2-1 press? No on all of those cases.
TFA how can you defend this guy! He has torn down our team and coach all year. How can you call yourself a fan either you should just keep your butt at the house with stlfan during the games.
Adjustments....holifield has adjusted his whole system to be successful at Sikeston. Sikeston has never had consistency in basketball before Holifield. Stlfan you don't know what you have. Any school would be honored to have him as their coach.
When did you pay for Coach Johnson? I too played for Coach Johnson. Most of my team mates went off to college on football, baseball, or track scholarships. My 1 year playing for Coach Johnson we ran Full Court Press and then dropped back into a zone. Played some man to man but that was the job of the Killer Bees with their Full court press.
Also I noticed U talked about Holifield being ther 14 years with 1 state title. There are quality coaches in every state that may have coached longer than that and never won a title.
Sikeston has had great teams in the past. Back with Allen Hatchett, James Harris, Marshawn(cannot remember his last name). Theu made it to columbi 2 years in a row but never got the title.
I was there with Tiger Boyd, Scott Collins, etc and we never pulled it off either.
Looks like stlfan38 has "disappeared" all of the sudden!!! He is probably hungover from going to BWW's every night of the week!!! LOL
State titles are tough to come by at Sikeston's level. Also coaching is not about how many titles you can win it's about the development of the players. And also what style would you play with a group of kids that's tallest player is 6 foot 3? The fact of the matter is that what Sikeston does is typilcal. How many defenses does Syracuse run? oh yeah 1. So basically If you don't like sikestons style of play you know nothing about basketball!
I don't have a dog in this hunt, but have a lot of respect for what Holifield has accomplished. I saw his team win a district title when he coached at Senath Hornersville and I was so impressed by how hard his kids played...how to you complain about a system when his teams are 125-15 the last 5 years! They just do things better than everyone else.
This has really gotten out of hand! I asked a simple question and got probably 2 answers. The rest is just ****** off, washed up and NON-COACHING fans BASHING a great high school coach. I asked the question to see if SEMO was getting a great assistant coach, NOT TO SEE IF WE COULD BASH COACH HOLIFIELD.
This has gone way to far and whoever STLFAN is, he needs to just stop going to Sikeston games cause as it looks many of the local fans don't really want him there. I understand why since he is a player/coach bashing fan that thinks his way is the only way. All i have to say is SEMO missed out on a GREAT coach. Sikeston has no reason to be upset with Holifield since over the last 8 or 9 years or so they have been one of the teams to beat in Class 4.
Please just stop defending or bashing Coach Holifield and move on... Let this thread die!
Slickwilly or whatever it is. Im pretty sure that everyone has the right to their opinion. If you read all my post I said I liked coach holifields zone. But I've known stlfan a long time and when ppl start attacking just because he has a different opinion than everyone else I will state that everyone can have their opinion just like u can but I can tell you right now My Butt can go to all the games or no games but it will be my choice not yours. If I wasn't a fan I wouldn't drive to St. Louis to the St. Dominique tournament for the last 2 years. I don't attack anyone on here and I don't appreciate being attacked.
stlouisfan I still think most of your comments are lame even if you do make them longer than usual.
Well for the record I do what i want.I pay my money just like the next guy.I stated my view and moved on.I didnt leave Kevin.Thank you very much.I dont drink or smoke do you.I let it rest Mac a creamy and praisewoman.I agree and disagree as I please.At th end of the day I still stated that the young men play hard and I rest my case.Im not on any bodies payroll or buddy system.I have enjoyed the young men and women that play sports period.With so much going on to distact our youth Im glad that they have found something they like doing.Hopefully all the area teams can keep their minds clear and come back next season in whatever sport they play and do their best.GOODNIGHTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT
"Never argue with a fool, onlookers may not be able to tell the difference." -- Mark Twain
If you ever notice children arguing on a playground, you will see that the one who loses the argument is the one who starts the name-calling.
You are right catfish you are right! Stlousfancy is wrong for sure!
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