Posted by s-town4292 on Sat, Jan 30, 2010, at 10:09 AM:
So over the course of the next month, Sikeston has to run the gauntlet that will help prove who the true #1 team in Southeast Missouri is with games against Poplar Bluff, Scott County Central, New Madrid, Portageville, Cape Central, Caruthersville, Bernie, and most likely a district championship game against Notre Dame. One of the toughest remaining schedules in the area.
While most people are already gearing up for the SCC game, the gauntlet really starts with a rematch against a Poplar Bluff team who Sikeston was only able to beat by 5 at the SEMO Conference tournament and who has only lost one game since. So the question is: who ya got? Will Sikeston prove that they were just rusty the first time around from football and that they have the talent to stop this very good Bluff team again? Will Jay Raulston take over again and lead his team to victory this time? Will there be a new x-factor for this game who wasn't as much of a factor the first time around. Let the debate begin.
IMO, the x-factor is the location of the game. Sikeston is extremely tough at home.
-- Posted by yah-yah on Sat, Jan 30, 2010, at 10:47 AM
I think Sikestons speed and depth will be the main X-factor for Sikeston, yea I know that's a generic and obvious answer, but that's strength. PBs X-factor will be Jay Raulstons 3 point shooting. Sikeston does a good job at the full court press and the zone D they use but they sometimes leave 3 point shooters open. Borgia killed them onn 3's last year, ND hurts them and this past Tuesday Jackson was able to stay in the game for the first half by hitting them.
-- Posted by Fatboy1972 on Sat, Jan 30, 2010, at 11:35 AM
This is going to be a good game. PB is deep off the bench as well and has been playing some great basketball since the Conf. Tourney. I always hate facing a team twice in one year. Especially after you have already beaten them once. 2 good coaches and 2 good teams. Should be another packed house!
-- Posted by mandm96 on Sat, Jan 30, 2010, at 12:13 PM
s-town4292
I think this could be one of the best games of the season. "TOO CLOSE TO CALL." Sikeston has the game at home. I think they have a great chance to win this game.
I would love to see some Poplar Bluff fans create semoball accounts and debate this game. Several Kennett fans created accounts to debate the Kennett / Sikeston game. It would be great to see Poplar Bluff fans create semoball accounts.
Creating a semoball account is easier the shoveling snow off your driveway.
-- Posted by drawmules on Sat, Jan 30, 2010, at 12:28 PM
Creating a semoball account is easier "than" shoveling snow off your driveway.
-- Posted by drawmules on Sat, Jan 30, 2010, at 12:31 PM
Bluff's 3-point shooting will be very important, my prediction
Sikeston 73
Bluff 68
-- Posted by semo2014 on Sat, Jan 30, 2010, at 12:39 PM
How deep is Bluff's bench? I know they've got a lot of talent but do they go as deep as Sikeston does?
-- Posted by Boss Man on Mon, Feb 1, 2010, at 10:56 AM
where are you getting our xfactor being Jay's 3pt shooting he has taken maybe 7 or 8 on the year. The x-factor for us will be not to have as many turnovers which i don't think we will, as far as 3pt shooting we have plenty of that with White and Marler but Coble is playing alot different and better now than he was earlier in the year.
-- Posted by BIGELW on Mon, Feb 1, 2010, at 11:50 AM
Very gud matchup, i got PB by 5+
-- Posted by eagle agent 00 on Tue, Feb 2, 2010, at 12:07 AM
I think that each team has a guy that is going to be the x-factor. For Sikeston, I think it will be how much of an impact Janeil Hatchett has in the game. If he's on, there will be no stopping Sikeston from scoring especially if Terry Jamison also makes a good amount of contribution. While I'm not very familiar with Bluff, I think that Greg Coble is the key for them. Raulston will get his points but if Coble also steps up big, they have a chance of making this a very high scoring affair. I've still gotta go with the Bulldogs 74-67.
-- Posted by s-town4292 on Tue, Feb 2, 2010, at 12:21 AM
ATTENTION SIKESTON FANS: I have learned poplar bluffs "x-factor" and i am going to share it with you! Its happens to be ..... wait for it..... wait for it .... THE CHEERLEADERS!!! One of poplar bluff's cheerleaders hit a new madrid player in the FACE!! there was no technical called but you know how that goes, but sikeston fans i think if you can shut down pb's cheerleaders and protect your players you can win this game!!!
-- Posted by BuckMajor on Tue, Feb 2, 2010, at 11:06 PM
What? No kidding? That's CRAZY!!!
-- Posted by mandm96 on Tue, Feb 2, 2010, at 11:21 PM
yes very crazy!!! I've watched many games and it was a first for me, i've never until this point seen a cheerleader get ejected from a game LOL!
-- Posted by BuckMajor on Tue, Feb 2, 2010, at 11:31 PM
Both of these teams are very talented and athletic. I will like to see how sikeston does missing Dixon and cutting their gaurd rotation one man short. If we are talking true X-factors i would have to say its coaching and i believe Poplar Bluff may have the superior coach of the two.
-- Posted by whipperwheel_36 on Wed, Feb 3, 2010, at 1:49 AM
When Sikeston and Bluff played, that was the third game (I think?) Sikeston had played all year after a long run into the state playoffs. The players were not into basketball shape as they probably didn't have near enough practice as the Bluff players did. I think now that Sikeston's players are in basketball mode they're not going to let Bluff come out in the second half and come back from a large defecit again. I say Sikeston by 10+
-- Posted by thepurpleturtle on Wed, Feb 3, 2010, at 8:11 AM
Whipperwheel, why don't you back your post up with some facts as to why you think Poplar Bluff has superior coaching? I say Sikeston 74, PB 62. I think Sikeston's depth and press will wear PB down.
-- Posted by yah-yah on Wed, Feb 3, 2010, at 8:15 AM
Whipperwheel,
What exactly are you basing your "X factory" (superior coaching)on? You are entitled to your opinion, but Sikeston has beaten Bluff 6 out of the last 7 meetings including this year. I would say, that's pretty good coaching. Coach Holifield has proven to be a very good coach throughout his time at Sikeston-consistency is usually a good indicator of that.
-- Posted by indian33 on Wed, Feb 3, 2010, at 10:24 AM
Nothing against Frazier, but I'm taking Holifield in the coaching matchup. Sikeston's basketball program is as strong as it has ever been top to bottom. You have to credit Holifield for that. You have to look for consistency. In Holifield's 12 years, there have only been three losing seasons. That's going to happen pretty much anywhere you go when the talent cycles down. The true sign of a good coach and program is how you bounce back from losing seasons. I think Sikeston's results speak for themselves.
What has Frazier done as a coach? I'm sure he does a fine job, but I think we need to wait a few years before we decide on how good a coach he is. He's had a couple good seasons now. Lets see how the program holds up the next few years.
-- Posted by semohoops on Wed, Feb 3, 2010, at 10:34 AM
semohoops... you happen to have any win/loss stats for Holifield's basketball program this year... I remember hearing that they have done pretty well top to bottom... and how they fared vs. Bluff???
-- Posted by barkleyfan on Wed, Feb 3, 2010, at 11:11 AM
I'm going to have to agree with most everyone else. Holifield has kept the Sikeston program very strong over the last few years. I'm especially impressed with him this year. The team had spent four years with an offense that funnelled mainly through Mike Porter. To lose him and come out the next season and still be such a contender is a testiment to his coaching as well as the talent of the team itself. Nothing against Coach Frazier but Holifield has the edge.
-- Posted by s-town4292 on Wed, Feb 3, 2010, at 11:26 AM
bball max u make a very good point and i wasnt saying anything bad about Holifield, but i would go as far as to say Holifield has had more talented players come through then Frazier has. I shoulda of clearified, both are good coaches, i just think Frazier with the talent he has has done a good job. Last year with the talent sikeston had they shoulda made the final four but Holifield, for unknown reasons, decided to play zone on a primarly shooting team in Borgia. U shoot teams outta zones which they did causing sikeston to switch to man and sikeston came back and i believe actually took a lead, but then went right back to zone and lost. u cant judge a coach on one poor coaching mistake but till this day im still amazed by it.
-- Posted by whipperwheel_36 on Wed, Feb 3, 2010, at 11:28 AM
naw, the x factor for poplar bluff will be our guard play, if i can remember correctly during the first matchup between bluff and sikeston, we were absolutly taken by suprise by the full court press of sikeston. Ever since that game we are 11-1 with the only loss coming to liberty tech (the showdown champs) by 1 point. If we take care of the basketball and limit our turnovers bluff has got it. But if sikeston can continue to force turnovers with there full court press then it will be difficult for bluff to win especially at there place. Never the less though looking foward to a great game/
-- Posted by Steven_Johnson on Wed, Feb 3, 2010, at 11:45 AM
I may be off by a game or two but last I heard Sikeston's total program record is 75-1. Undefeated on all levels from 7th, 8th, 9th, and JV and the varsity has the one loss.
-- Posted by semohoops on Wed, Feb 3, 2010, at 12:05 PM
"Undefeated on all levels from 7th, 8th, 9th, and JV and the varsity has the one loss."
End of story on the coaching ability!
-- Posted by JuniorBulldog on Wed, Feb 3, 2010, at 12:50 PM
Whipperwheel,
You do not have your facts straight. Sikeston started in their 2-2-1 Press back to 2-3 which is their bread and butter. Borgia hit three 3's and they quickly went to man. Borgia, being the great offensive team they are, hit four quick 3's. Sikeston then switched to a 1-2-2 3/4 trap, which was effective, they played this the rest of the game until the 4th quarter when they switched back to man for a few last possessions. Holifield adjusted, like any good coach should do, against a great team. Sikeston held Borgia to 5o pts the entire game and that had been unusual for the Knights.
-- Posted by indian33 on Wed, Feb 3, 2010, at 1:12 PM
Good points bballmax1. Regardless of what defense people think Sikeston should've played against Borgia, the bottom line is Sikeston actually held Borgia to 42 points until they were forced to foul in the final minute.
-- Posted by semohoops on Wed, Feb 3, 2010, at 1:16 PM
Anyone that had played Borgia last year would tell you that you don't play man on them. Borgia hit some long 3's against the zone, but only one or two were open shots.
Borgia scored on Sikeston's man, the very few times they played it. Sikeston had to come out of it. They played in a zone about 98% of the night, if I recall correctly.
-- Posted by BW23 on Wed, Feb 3, 2010, at 1:50 PM
Borgia was just a great team, as shown by how they manhandled everybody in their path. Sikeston was the only team to even give them a ballgame. You roll the dice defensively against those guys. They can kill you with backdoor layups and screens in man to man or you take your chances with a zone and hope they don't beat you with the 3 balls. There's not much different Sikeston could've done defensively.
-- Posted by semohoops on Wed, Feb 3, 2010, at 2:04 PM
Alright bball thanks for clearing that up. When i was at the game last year thats just what i saw and i was impressed with how sikeston keep borgia to such a low score. Just physically looking at the teams i thought sikeston man to man was better then there zone. Ex otto potter dropped 20 on sikestons zone in the first half and then maybe 4 when they went to man and big cousin micheal shut him down.
-- Posted by whipperwheel_36 on Wed, Feb 3, 2010, at 2:41 PM
If I remember correctly, didn't Sikeston play some kind of hybrid defense for a while? Box and one or something? I just remember Sikeston playing a zone except for Michael, who was all over the perimeter following the ball.
-- Posted by FarmBoy06 on Wed, Feb 3, 2010, at 4:54 PM
I think that individual assignments were more of a problem than the overall defense scheme last year against Borgia. We played a zone and Borgia was able to work the ball around and catch a Sikeston player out of position and hit an open shot. Then when we switched to the man they almost immidiately adjusted with well placed screens to, once again, get the open shot. I think that this year our team is tighter on defense and will make it harder to get that open shot.
-- Posted by thepurpleturtle on Thu, Feb 4, 2010, at 11:18 PM
What time does the Poplar Bluff / Cape Central game start on Saturday?
-- Posted by drawmules on Thu, Feb 4, 2010, at 11:32 PM
Ok... I predict...Sikeston 78 over Poplar Bluff 71
GO DAWGS!!!!!!!!!!
-- Posted by HOOPSIDIDITAGAIN on Fri, Feb 5, 2010, at 3:12 PM
I want to see this game very bad. However, I cannot miss the Bernie / Notre Dame game. I hope someone provides updates for the Sikeston / Poplar Bluff game under the basketball scores thread tonight.
-- Posted by drawmules on Fri, Feb 5, 2010, at 3:34 PM
drawmules
7:30
-- Posted by dukefan30 on Fri, Feb 5, 2010, at 8:57 PM
I'm a little surprised by the score tonight, but not too much. Going to be interesting to see how the rest of the conference schedule plays out.
-- Posted by FarmBoy06 on Sat, Feb 6, 2010, at 2:06 AM
Holifield picked up his 184th win last night. Sneaking up on the 200 win mark.
One thing that stands out is that since the start of the 05-06 season his record is 102-25.
Here's another you might go wow at! LOL
From 12/19/09 to 2/4/10 = 47 days - Sikeston has only played 8 games!
-- Posted by mandm96 on Sat, Feb 6, 2010, at 9:21 AM
And weren't 4 of those in a week's time? lol
-- Posted by FarmBoy06 on Sat, Feb 6, 2010, at 10:11 AM
I hope Sikeston does a better job of scheduling next year. There are teams with a better starting 5 but I'm not sure if there's any teams that can match Sikestons depth and speed. PB played a heck of a game last night till about the middle of the 3rd qtr. then some of their shots started hitting the fromt of the rim and they stopped jumping as high and Sikeston started out rebounding them. I can't wait for the SCC game and ND rematch.
-- Posted by Fatboy1972 on Sat, Feb 6, 2010, at 10:12 AM
I'm with you Fatboy...couple of good games to look forward to. Hard to believe the district final is only a month away.
-- Posted by FarmBoy06 on Sat, Feb 6, 2010, at 10:21 AM
You're right Farm...they played on the 12th, 13th, 15th & 16th.
-- Posted by mandm96 on Sat, Feb 6, 2010, at 12:52 PM
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So over the course of the next month, Sikeston has to run the gauntlet that will help prove who the true #1 team in Southeast Missouri is with games against Poplar Bluff, Scott County Central, New Madrid, Portageville, Cape Central, Caruthersville, Bernie, and most likely a district championship game against Notre Dame. One of the toughest remaining schedules in the area.
While most people are already gearing up for the SCC game, the gauntlet really starts with a rematch against a Poplar Bluff team who Sikeston was only able to beat by 5 at the SEMO Conference tournament and who has only lost one game since. So the question is: who ya got? Will Sikeston prove that they were just rusty the first time around from football and that they have the talent to stop this very good Bluff team again? Will Jay Raulston take over again and lead his team to victory this time? Will there be a new x-factor for this game who wasn't as much of a factor the first time around. Let the debate begin.
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IMO, the x-factor is the location of the game. Sikeston is extremely tough at home.
I think Sikestons speed and depth will be the main X-factor for Sikeston, yea I know that's a generic and obvious answer, but that's strength. PBs X-factor will be Jay Raulstons 3 point shooting. Sikeston does a good job at the full court press and the zone D they use but they sometimes leave 3 point shooters open. Borgia killed them onn 3's last year, ND hurts them and this past Tuesday Jackson was able to stay in the game for the first half by hitting them.
This is going to be a good game. PB is deep off the bench as well and has been playing some great basketball since the Conf. Tourney. I always hate facing a team twice in one year. Especially after you have already beaten them once. 2 good coaches and 2 good teams. Should be another packed house!
s-town4292
I think this could be one of the best games of the season. "TOO CLOSE TO CALL." Sikeston has the game at home. I think they have a great chance to win this game.
I would love to see some Poplar Bluff fans create semoball accounts and debate this game. Several Kennett fans created accounts to debate the Kennett / Sikeston game. It would be great to see Poplar Bluff fans create semoball accounts.
Creating a semoball account is easier the shoveling snow off your driveway.
Creating a semoball account is easier "than" shoveling snow off your driveway.
Bluff's 3-point shooting will be very important, my prediction
Sikeston 73
Bluff 68
How deep is Bluff's bench? I know they've got a lot of talent but do they go as deep as Sikeston does?
where are you getting our xfactor being Jay's 3pt shooting he has taken maybe 7 or 8 on the year. The x-factor for us will be not to have as many turnovers which i don't think we will, as far as 3pt shooting we have plenty of that with White and Marler but Coble is playing alot different and better now than he was earlier in the year.
Very gud matchup, i got PB by 5+
I think that each team has a guy that is going to be the x-factor. For Sikeston, I think it will be how much of an impact Janeil Hatchett has in the game. If he's on, there will be no stopping Sikeston from scoring especially if Terry Jamison also makes a good amount of contribution. While I'm not very familiar with Bluff, I think that Greg Coble is the key for them. Raulston will get his points but if Coble also steps up big, they have a chance of making this a very high scoring affair. I've still gotta go with the Bulldogs 74-67.
ATTENTION SIKESTON FANS: I have learned poplar bluffs "x-factor" and i am going to share it with you! Its happens to be ..... wait for it..... wait for it .... THE CHEERLEADERS!!! One of poplar bluff's cheerleaders hit a new madrid player in the FACE!! there was no technical called but you know how that goes, but sikeston fans i think if you can shut down pb's cheerleaders and protect your players you can win this game!!!
What? No kidding? That's CRAZY!!!
yes very crazy!!! I've watched many games and it was a first for me, i've never until this point seen a cheerleader get ejected from a game LOL!
Both of these teams are very talented and athletic. I will like to see how sikeston does missing Dixon and cutting their gaurd rotation one man short. If we are talking true X-factors i would have to say its coaching and i believe Poplar Bluff may have the superior coach of the two.
When Sikeston and Bluff played, that was the third game (I think?) Sikeston had played all year after a long run into the state playoffs. The players were not into basketball shape as they probably didn't have near enough practice as the Bluff players did. I think now that Sikeston's players are in basketball mode they're not going to let Bluff come out in the second half and come back from a large defecit again. I say Sikeston by 10+
Whipperwheel, why don't you back your post up with some facts as to why you think Poplar Bluff has superior coaching? I say Sikeston 74, PB 62. I think Sikeston's depth and press will wear PB down.
Whipperwheel,
What exactly are you basing your "X factory" (superior coaching)on? You are entitled to your opinion, but Sikeston has beaten Bluff 6 out of the last 7 meetings including this year. I would say, that's pretty good coaching. Coach Holifield has proven to be a very good coach throughout his time at Sikeston-consistency is usually a good indicator of that.
Nothing against Frazier, but I'm taking Holifield in the coaching matchup. Sikeston's basketball program is as strong as it has ever been top to bottom. You have to credit Holifield for that. You have to look for consistency. In Holifield's 12 years, there have only been three losing seasons. That's going to happen pretty much anywhere you go when the talent cycles down. The true sign of a good coach and program is how you bounce back from losing seasons. I think Sikeston's results speak for themselves.
What has Frazier done as a coach? I'm sure he does a fine job, but I think we need to wait a few years before we decide on how good a coach he is. He's had a couple good seasons now. Lets see how the program holds up the next few years.
semohoops... you happen to have any win/loss stats for Holifield's basketball program this year... I remember hearing that they have done pretty well top to bottom... and how they fared vs. Bluff???
I'm going to have to agree with most everyone else. Holifield has kept the Sikeston program very strong over the last few years. I'm especially impressed with him this year. The team had spent four years with an offense that funnelled mainly through Mike Porter. To lose him and come out the next season and still be such a contender is a testiment to his coaching as well as the talent of the team itself. Nothing against Coach Frazier but Holifield has the edge.
bball max u make a very good point and i wasnt saying anything bad about Holifield, but i would go as far as to say Holifield has had more talented players come through then Frazier has. I shoulda of clearified, both are good coaches, i just think Frazier with the talent he has has done a good job. Last year with the talent sikeston had they shoulda made the final four but Holifield, for unknown reasons, decided to play zone on a primarly shooting team in Borgia. U shoot teams outta zones which they did causing sikeston to switch to man and sikeston came back and i believe actually took a lead, but then went right back to zone and lost. u cant judge a coach on one poor coaching mistake but till this day im still amazed by it.
naw, the x factor for poplar bluff will be our guard play, if i can remember correctly during the first matchup between bluff and sikeston, we were absolutly taken by suprise by the full court press of sikeston. Ever since that game we are 11-1 with the only loss coming to liberty tech (the showdown champs) by 1 point. If we take care of the basketball and limit our turnovers bluff has got it. But if sikeston can continue to force turnovers with there full court press then it will be difficult for bluff to win especially at there place. Never the less though looking foward to a great game/
I may be off by a game or two but last I heard Sikeston's total program record is 75-1. Undefeated on all levels from 7th, 8th, 9th, and JV and the varsity has the one loss.
"Undefeated on all levels from 7th, 8th, 9th, and JV and the varsity has the one loss."
End of story on the coaching ability!
Whipperwheel,
You do not have your facts straight. Sikeston started in their 2-2-1 Press back to 2-3 which is their bread and butter. Borgia hit three 3's and they quickly went to man. Borgia, being the great offensive team they are, hit four quick 3's. Sikeston then switched to a 1-2-2 3/4 trap, which was effective, they played this the rest of the game until the 4th quarter when they switched back to man for a few last possessions. Holifield adjusted, like any good coach should do, against a great team. Sikeston held Borgia to 5o pts the entire game and that had been unusual for the Knights.
Good points bballmax1. Regardless of what defense people think Sikeston should've played against Borgia, the bottom line is Sikeston actually held Borgia to 42 points until they were forced to foul in the final minute.
Anyone that had played Borgia last year would tell you that you don't play man on them. Borgia hit some long 3's against the zone, but only one or two were open shots.
Borgia scored on Sikeston's man, the very few times they played it. Sikeston had to come out of it. They played in a zone about 98% of the night, if I recall correctly.
Borgia was just a great team, as shown by how they manhandled everybody in their path. Sikeston was the only team to even give them a ballgame. You roll the dice defensively against those guys. They can kill you with backdoor layups and screens in man to man or you take your chances with a zone and hope they don't beat you with the 3 balls. There's not much different Sikeston could've done defensively.
Alright bball thanks for clearing that up. When i was at the game last year thats just what i saw and i was impressed with how sikeston keep borgia to such a low score. Just physically looking at the teams i thought sikeston man to man was better then there zone. Ex otto potter dropped 20 on sikestons zone in the first half and then maybe 4 when they went to man and big cousin micheal shut him down.
If I remember correctly, didn't Sikeston play some kind of hybrid defense for a while? Box and one or something? I just remember Sikeston playing a zone except for Michael, who was all over the perimeter following the ball.
I think that individual assignments were more of a problem than the overall defense scheme last year against Borgia. We played a zone and Borgia was able to work the ball around and catch a Sikeston player out of position and hit an open shot. Then when we switched to the man they almost immidiately adjusted with well placed screens to, once again, get the open shot. I think that this year our team is tighter on defense and will make it harder to get that open shot.
What time does the Poplar Bluff / Cape Central game start on Saturday?
Ok... I predict...Sikeston 78 over Poplar Bluff 71
GO DAWGS!!!!!!!!!!
I want to see this game very bad. However, I cannot miss the Bernie / Notre Dame game. I hope someone provides updates for the Sikeston / Poplar Bluff game under the basketball scores thread tonight.
drawmules
7:30
I'm a little surprised by the score tonight, but not too much. Going to be interesting to see how the rest of the conference schedule plays out.
Holifield picked up his 184th win last night. Sneaking up on the 200 win mark.
One thing that stands out is that since the start of the 05-06 season his record is 102-25.
Here's another you might go wow at! LOL
From 12/19/09 to 2/4/10 = 47 days - Sikeston has only played 8 games!
And weren't 4 of those in a week's time? lol
I hope Sikeston does a better job of scheduling next year. There are teams with a better starting 5 but I'm not sure if there's any teams that can match Sikestons depth and speed. PB played a heck of a game last night till about the middle of the 3rd qtr. then some of their shots started hitting the fromt of the rim and they stopped jumping as high and Sikeston started out rebounding them. I can't wait for the SCC game and ND rematch.
I'm with you Fatboy...couple of good games to look forward to. Hard to believe the district final is only a month away.
You're right Farm...they played on the 12th, 13th, 15th & 16th.