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In all honesty most people have little idea what it takes to play college sports at any level, must less D-1. Just because someone "looks good in uniform" that doesn't really mean anything. What does it take IMO? 1.talent, 2. grades and test score,3. coachability, 4. the "want" to really play. 4. support group of family or others, 5. some financial means. I base this on 35 yrs. of coaching, officiating, and playing at the college level. I love to see our area athletes obtain the chance to play sports in college but it is a reach for many of them. In an earlier post some guys mentioned 5-6 players on their team who could play college football, honestly very doubtful. In reality if you can get 1-2 a year off the bigger schools and and 1 from a smaller school, you are doing well. Their are exceptions, but not many. Good luck to all the SEMO area kids.
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You forgot a biggest one, exposure. Cause if a no one ever see's you play then i doubt you get any kind of scholarship. In a earlier post i mentioned that last years sikeston team had quite a few players go into the next level, could some of that be credited to sikestons success the past few years?
If your a good D1 recruit they will find you if you get exposure or not
Espicially with great recruiters like John Callipari from Kentucky. One of the starters on this upcoming season's team, Callipari recruited him and gave him a scholarship, and had never even seen him play a basketball game.
Yes, Dustin success increases exposure, plus some coaches are better at getting their players names "out there". One important thing is coaches be honest with the player and his parents about what level he can play at and also mislead a college coach about a players ability. I mean don't mislead a college coach.
But how many players do you think from the semo area have the type of talent to get a scholarship from a coach like that? And lets be honest, one of his people had to have seen him at some point, he might not have personally seen him, but someone in his staff did.
Mental Toughness. Doesn't matter how talented, smart, big, strong, or fast a player is if they can't handle being dog cussed by a coach they won't make it at the next level. Not condoning verbal abuse, just repeating what our players who have played at the next level have said.
Thing about coaching in college its alot more intense, this is there JOB! so they are going to get everything they can out of you, because this is what is putting the taters and gravy on the table for them. The athletes performance reflects directly on them, and are more likely to let go. So to have the expect you to be good and be irate when you don't perform just comes with the territory in my opinion
My view on this is that it is extremely hard to get any type of sports scholarship unless you are a grade A stud. However I believe that if you are willing to walk-on a team there is somewhere that will take you. My thought is walk-on then try to develope at the college level. Maybe even get offered a scholarship at some point. But if you have dreams of playing college sports, go for it. Just be willing to take what you can get.
Brian J and Bill I agree with both your comments. I would put "mental toughness" under coach ability and even in high school you better win now or you will be pressured out of a job. Especially small school basketball in our area, I would suggest any coach in that position rent until established!
Well you definitely have to be seen or have a coach with a history of putting kids into college programs. To be seen I think you have to go deep into the playoffs. Go to where the scouts are going to be. Watching the best teams that will be playing. If a player has been a three or four year stud and has helped lead his team to a championship they will come and watch him. A coach can have allot to do with it. Scouts will call a coach with a good track record and ask what kind of talent he has on his team. If the coach feels he has a blue chip player they will com watch. If not he will tell them what he has and they but it in there data base. I know this because its how my nephew got his scholarship. He got hurt two years in a row in district play. He played for a small school that nobody herd of or seen much. But the coach had a history of putting kids in college at previous school. What definitely helped him was grades. Schools want the whole package.
well from someone who played college ball.... it takes a lot of mailing tapes to colleges, better work ethic than most of the kids you'll play against, definite mental toughness. they don't pay YOU to play, YOU pay THEM. you wont get babied like in high school.
it takes a coach who is willing to get your name out as well. gotta have somewhat decent grades. high ACT score helps a ton. colleges don't want to waste money on a kid who cant stay academically eligible. they'll find someone else as good as you but with better grades.
exposure is a huge thing. if william moore was a senior at kelly this year, do you think mizzou would have offered him? doubtful... i've seen a few kids playing at the college level that were from big name schools in STL that would have been above average players in semo. if they were at say charleston, st vincent, chaffee, or east prairie, they would have probably not gotten any offers. a lot of "exposure" has to do with the overall skill of the team you are on. you can be the best, lets say running back, in semo, but if you have no line, you wont get any yards. not a lot of colleges are going to look for players from teams that can't make the playoffs or go over .500.
this goes for any level of college ball in my opinion.
Daddy is on the right track.
I also played college ball and without exposure it is next to impossible to make it. I went to Jackson so had a little more exposure than many in SEMO but it was still send tape after tape to get looks. I ultimately went to Missouri State and with hard work went up the depth chart. There are numerous local athletes that are just as good and better than STL players but have no exposure but once these players make it on a campus they exhibit a much better work ethic and in the end succeed.
exactly my point! and size matters as well. look at bourbon and lewandowski's stats from '08. they were just about even in every category. lewandowski was 5'9'' 180 and bourbon was 6'2'' 200. who you gonna recruit if your kansas, mizzou, or stanford? a real athletic 5'9'' kid or a mirror image of a d-1 runningback? not too hard of a choice there... heck i think if lewandowski was 6'2'' 200 he'd be playing d-1 right now. that would have been a cool story line if he then played at mizzou. "old rivals back at it in college"
Mizzou has running backs that are 5'9 190. So bad argument. And if you could not make it at lindenwood then why would you think you could play in the sec if you were 3 inches taller? And mizzou and KU don't play each other.
they run 4.3 40's. and this is mizzou's first year in the SEC. mizzou and KU played last year.
And bourbon ran 4.1 also according to everyone in Potosi. There are probably 5 people in the entire college football world that run a legit 4.3.
If youre 5'8" 170 you can play at SW Baptist
It depends on what level of college you mean. A lot of Semo area kids can make it as a walk on at SEMO or can play at the NAIA level, but with no scholarship it takes a lot of dedication and love of the game to do that.
sometimes college ball isn't for everyone. a few kids from freddy have had scholarships to semo but wanted to go work for pense bros instead.
Jimmy Jackson played for Mizzou and he was only 5'10 200. He was an exceptional athlete though.
if a kid from Potosi (or anywhere) truly ran a 4.1, he would have gone to the Olympics..... not possible!
Cheesehead, Jackson was very good saw him line up as a D end against SV back in 03 I believe. He was probably 5"8 180 at the time. He abused our left tackle 6"4 270 future all state lineman all day long.
Pretty amazing athlete.
Well bourbon did run a sub 4.1. Everyone in potosi claims to have seen it about 1000 times on every dirt road in the county
no no no.... i saw it on tape. he ran a 3.9 uphill, barefoot, and in a blizzard.
Talent & exposure