Inside word this may be a bust recruit, hate to say that but just telling you what I know.
-- Posted by stlscott on Thu, Oct 4, 2012, at 8:05 PM
I would say that is a pretty accurate assumption to make after 5 games of his true Freshman year.
-- Posted by DaleDoback on Thu, Oct 4, 2012, at 8:21 PM
Bust! Ya I think your the one selling it to him! He's played 5 games and 2 vs the Sec he will be a 1 rd pick in a few years
-- Posted by Bleed Green on Thu, Oct 4, 2012, at 8:52 PM
i saw him play in hs down here in springfield. the kid's a stud. he's just an idiot for smoking pot on campus. hopefully i can say that since he's not a hs athlete? give him a year to straighten out hopefully. then i can see him being the elite receiver he is made out to be.
-- Posted by TheDaddy on Thu, Oct 4, 2012, at 9:03 PM
Only pass he'll catch this Saturday is puff puff pass
-- Posted by sawdust49 on Thu, Oct 4, 2012, at 9:08 PM
Lmmfao sawdust gd one! He messed up he'll b alright
-- Posted by cvilletger on Thu, Oct 4, 2012, at 9:23 PM
made my night sawdust.
-- Posted by TheDaddy on Thu, Oct 4, 2012, at 9:35 PM
I think we all should remember he is still very young, and as a young person, we all know that we don't always use our best judgement. He is a great athlete with unbelievable talents. I'm sure coach P will help guide and support him. He deserves a chance to make it right.
-- Posted by semofan23 on Fri, Oct 5, 2012, at 6:11 AM
wasn't there like 3 or 4 other guys also that got busted?
-- Posted by BIGELW on Fri, Oct 5, 2012, at 7:50 AM
When they let it go in college then all of a sudden it is no big deal if they become pro. Maybe that is what is wrong with our athletic system and the perception it casts to the public. "It's always, well he/she goofed it won't happen again!"
You don't have to crucify these kids or pros but make it to where the kids that look up to them know that this is unacceptable..........period!
This kid is an outstanding athlete and needs to live up to a certain standard when he is a scholarship athlete! He does deserve another chance but he also needs to be under a BIG microscope making him think about it and his future choices!
-- Posted by localfan on Fri, Oct 5, 2012, at 8:32 AM
His stats this year speak for him and he's been real lazy on the field and now we all know why.... He's been "Dazed and Confused!" Lol
-- Posted by footballfan29 on Fri, Oct 5, 2012, at 8:52 AM
I assume you're joking, but DGB hasn't been lazy on the field. He's been highlighted in the game film sessions for his downfield blocking and the TD he scored last Saturday was mainly a result of his will to find the endzone. He went down and got a low pass and broke a tackle. He hasn't been thrown at much because he isn't high in the reads. Obviously, Moe is usually the first receiver looked at many times. And, I'm not sold on Franklin's ability to check through more than a couple reads on a play. Part of that is the line not giving him time, however.
-- Posted by yah-yah on Fri, Oct 5, 2012, at 9:19 AM
If I was a stud WR and James Franklin was my QB I think I may resort to some way of calming my nerves as well. I think Mizzou just wants some SEC street cred, all the other SEC schools usually have suspensions and such throughout the year so this maybe a recruiting ploy. I mean could they really be that dumb to sit in a White Lincoln Navigator in the middle of campus to smoke weed? He should have least waited till next week to avoid playing Alabama instead of Vanderbilt.
-- Posted by 6+4+3=2 on Fri, Oct 5, 2012, at 9:28 AM
Unfortunately i got my hopes up and thought he might have maclin or danario type speed. Aint happenin. He may have appeared fast in hs but he hasnt impressed me like a 5star should. He's good but not special. Not a good sign he cant lay off the dope.
-- Posted by cirithungol17 on Fri, Oct 5, 2012, at 9:51 AM
Maclin redshirted as a freshman. DGB is playing as a true freshman. There is no way you can judge yet whether he is 'special'. Also, there was a Heisman Candidate throwing to J-Mac.
-- Posted by yah-yah on Fri, Oct 5, 2012, at 10:05 AM
Exactly my thoughts! Franklin is not even on the same map as Chase! And don't forget that Mizz had 2 all american TE's that took a lot of pressure off of Maklin! DGB will be fine remember he's only 18 or 19 has a lot of growing up to do
-- Posted by Bleed Green on Fri, Oct 5, 2012, at 10:20 AM
I watched DGB play in HS in person and most of his yards were yards after catch on short routes due to his size and speed. His physical abilities are what listed him as the #1 receiver in the nation. To use those abilities in college football and in the pros, he will need to be a better route runner because he can't always just run over people or past them like he did in HS. Now, Franklin is a big problem as well because I truthfully don't think he is accurate enough for passes past 10+ yards. I do understand he isn't given much time, but he has never been an accurate passer on anything beyond 5-10 yards usually. I would agree with yah-yah that Franklin doesn't do a good job at checking more than 1-2 reads on a play. However, I think DGB will do fine and be one of the best receivers in the nation by his Jr year if he quits the pot and puts in the work because God given ability will only take you so far.
-- Posted by sm0723 on Fri, Oct 5, 2012, at 10:22 AM
Maclin and danario could blow past oklahomas dbacks, who were always the fastest in big12. Rarely if ever has zou had speed to outrun sooners. Dgb hasnt the speed to be what i'd call special, as he exhibited vs carolina and georgia. Maybe he'd excel as a tite end like rucker? Just my opinion that he's been way overhyped.
-- Posted by cirithungol17 on Fri, Oct 5, 2012, at 10:23 AM
Cirit.....It sounds like you wouldnt call Usain Bolt fast.
-- Posted by DaleDoback on Fri, Oct 5, 2012, at 10:51 AM
Percy harvin uses marijuana and he's successful.. I don't tho k his personal time habits have anything to do with his play
-- Posted by sportsnerd on Fri, Oct 5, 2012, at 11:13 AM
think
-- Posted by sportsnerd on Fri, Oct 5, 2012, at 11:14 AM
Usain bolt is fast.
-- Posted by cirithungol17 on Fri, Oct 5, 2012, at 11:23 AM
Well when I see an 18 year old kid thats 6'6" 230lbs and he can run 40 yards in 4.4 seconds....In my opinion thats "special" speed. When he caught that 25 yard post against UCF with 2 DB's beside him and he took it 55 more yards for the TD and the closest player to him was 10-15 yards behind him when he got to the end zone...I call that special.
-- Posted by DaleDoback on Fri, Oct 5, 2012, at 11:50 AM
The number of college athletels that use mariujana as a social drug is astounding. Most people don't notice this obviously because majority don't get caught in the process. DGB just got unlucky, even though he was smoking on campus. IMO, there isn't much difference between this and receiving some type of alcohol charge. Like stated above, this is similiar to being put in time-out compared to what some other SEC schools are facing as far as discipline problems right now. Don't judge the kid. A freshman mistake, plus it'll probably blowover soon.
-- Posted by Uncle Charlie on Fri, Oct 5, 2012, at 11:55 AM
and when you have all those talents, and decide to throw it away by doing drugs, thats not special.
-- Posted by BuckMajor on Fri, Oct 5, 2012, at 11:55 AM
He gets caught smokin a J and hes now become an addict, hes a bust, he cant run fast, this is becoming hilarious. Over 80% of Americans have done what Dorial did Weds night. He got caught, most do not. He'll be fine, he is an 18 year old kid who made a mistake. He has good parents, he has good coaches.
-- Posted by DaleDoback on Fri, Oct 5, 2012, at 12:01 PM
"getting caught" seems to be the concern, not actually doing something completely illegal. If "getting caught" was his only concern, then he needs to re-evaluate what his priorities are. You are given very few chances at his level to succeed. Some aren't willing to sacrifice things in order to succeed. How I was raised, smoking pot isn't just a small offense and a pat on the butt. Apparently the lesson wasn't received by him through High School.
-- Posted by barkleyfan on Fri, Oct 5, 2012, at 12:11 PM
I know a few people personally that played with him on select teams during high school and they used to tell me he smoked a lot. I shrugged it off but it's obviously true. If you were to conduct a survey of college athletes on drug and alcohol use some of you would be very surprised as to how prominent it is. Professional athletes do it to. No, it's not legal, but nobody cares as long as they don't hear about it and that player is getting them a win in Saturday or 20 fantasy points on Sunday.
To say DGB doesn't have the speed you were expecting is ignorant. He could've went just about anywhere in the country to run track. He's an enormous guy of course it doesn't look like he's moving as quick as the 6'2" guy along side him. Some people didn't think Kony would end up doing that well at mizzou. Then he went through a year and out on a bunch of muscle and gained some skill. Let's face it, DGB is a much better natural athlete than Kony is or was. Give him a year to bulk up and improve his football knowledge and the guy will be unstoppable.
-- Posted by CapeAlum on Fri, Oct 5, 2012, at 3:06 PM
Actually, getting caught with pot in Columbia is a small offense, smaller than a minor in possession of alcohol. He just had the misfortune of getting caught by campus police, instead of Columbia police, who probably would have looked the other way considering the amount in question. For pete's sake, he's just a kid who did something stupid. I wonder is there would have been the same uproar if he had been caught with a beer, which for him is just as illegal?
-- Posted by oldbulldog on Fri, Oct 5, 2012, at 3:13 PM
Pot smoking is stupid. If you get caught with it, you deserve the humiliation you get. I think coaches should go for the three game suspension for getting arrested personally. Not just in this case but in general. It'll teach kids that there are consequences to actions but of course the games are more important. Some schools are doing better to teach kids responsibility for their actions. Hugh Freeze, the new coach at Ole Miss will make a kid sit a quarter if they miss a class. We haven't seen what happens for a major violation yet but the focus for these kids to a degree needs to be on being students as well as athletes. I hope DGB learns a lesson from this but I doubt it.
-- Posted by sideline starter on Fri, Oct 5, 2012, at 3:21 PM
Why do you doubt it? Do you know him personally?
-- Posted by DaleDoback on Fri, Oct 5, 2012, at 3:31 PM
Because I've seen enough pothead college athletes in my time. Didn't say he wouldn't learn his lesson. Just don't think he will. Gotta love the Mizzou apologist honks like Perkinsballer/DaleDoback.
-- Posted by sideline starter on Fri, Oct 5, 2012, at 3:39 PM
No reason to get upset little buddy, you made a statement that seemed to me like only someone who knew the character of DGB would make. Just wondering if ya knew him.
-- Posted by DaleDoback on Fri, Oct 5, 2012, at 4:03 PM
Wow what an argument about how much other people do it. That's crap. What is this, middle school!? "but mooooom, everyone else is doing it". he has amazing talent, and this week he will contribute as much talent to the game as I will, none. And that's a shame. I also feel, me being a cancer survivor, I can't stand to see people harm their bodies on purpose. I feel like I can judge them. Maybe it's just one mistake, or as semosports reports, maybe it's not. But sometimes one is all it takes! And he is 18 or 19, playing SEC college football. It's time to grow and start being a man. He's gotta put away childish stuff. We don't call our 18 year olds in the military kids, their young men. I bet the ones in Vietnam didn't feel very much like kids. So I think people are making a lousy argument. And you can say we're getting worked up over something small, but to me it's not something small. Society has made it something small, but that still doesn't make it right. Hey maybe he will bounce back better than ever, or maybe he won't. Only time will tell. But COME ON MAN!
-- Posted by BuckMajor on Fri, Oct 5, 2012, at 4:07 PM
Not upset. Someone who is upset over the subject would try to turn the argument away from the subject to questioning the person making a counter-argument to try to deflect blame. I only see one person doing that.
-- Posted by sideline starter on Fri, Oct 5, 2012, at 4:11 PM
Im not upset whatsoever. I could care less. Truth is the amount people acting like this is a big deal is mind blowing.
-- Posted by DaleDoback on Fri, Oct 5, 2012, at 4:22 PM
How dare us to want athletes to follow the law and expect coaches to hold them accountable to a strict standard when they don't?
-- Posted by sideline starter on Fri, Oct 5, 2012, at 4:25 PM
The amount of people who think this is something small is mind blowing.
-- Posted by BuckMajor on Fri, Oct 5, 2012, at 4:31 PM
Kids mess up Sideline, I guess you never made a mistake from age 18-22.
-- Posted by DaleDoback on Fri, Oct 5, 2012, at 4:38 PM
Nope. Had enough sense in me not to.
-- Posted by sideline starter on Fri, Oct 5, 2012, at 4:49 PM
I would take issue with the claim "80%" do it! And even if that were true, I would still maintain it is a "very big deal!"
-- Posted by semo7178 on Fri, Oct 5, 2012, at 4:52 PM
I would take issue with the claim "80%" do it! And even if that were true, I would still maintain it is a "very big deal!"
-- Posted by semo7178 on Fri, Oct 5, 2012, at 4:53 PM
I just wish they would arrest Dave Yost for looking like a woman and calling plays like he's on crack
-- Posted by 6+4+3=2 on Fri, Oct 5, 2012, at 4:56 PM
might not be 80% but at least over 50% have tried it
-- Posted by sportsnerd on Fri, Oct 5, 2012, at 4:57 PM
The thing that bothers me the most are the kids that are watching him now. Weather he likes it or not. He is a roll model now to allot of young boys who love mizzou football. When he signed that scholarship he became a young man with responsibility. So for me it is a big deal. I'm a dad of two teenage boys. I don't want them thinking because there athletes its ok. If pot is no big deal he can ho home and smoke all he wants but not as part of the Tigers. I think the NCAA needs stiff penalties on drug use no matter how minor.
-- Posted by oldschoolbballer on Fri, Oct 5, 2012, at 6:45 PM
I know alot of stuff on DGB nobody else does its alot more than smoking pot, football wise he isn't able to understand offense. When that happens in college, I would be reluctant to draft in a pro system.
-- Posted by stlscott on Fri, Oct 5, 2012, at 8:17 PM
There is a reason he hasn't really been a factor thru 4 games, he isnt getting open, this isn't football in southwest mo, your in big boy league now.
-- Posted by stlscott on Fri, Oct 5, 2012, at 8:19 PM
Maybe they can frame his mugshot next to Pinkels
-- Posted by sawdust49 on Fri, Oct 5, 2012, at 9:22 PM
No way...college athletes don't party!! They're adults!! Get real...quit judging the kid that's not your job. He's not out there fighting or stealing, he's being a dumb @$$ with his boys, which is what college kids do. Give it a rest.
-- Posted by 7plus1 on Sat, Oct 6, 2012, at 2:26 AM
Busted for pot in columbia, ouch.
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Inside word this may be a bust recruit, hate to say that but just telling you what I know.
I would say that is a pretty accurate assumption to make after 5 games of his true Freshman year.
Bust! Ya I think your the one selling it to him! He's played 5 games and 2 vs the Sec he will be a 1 rd pick in a few years
i saw him play in hs down here in springfield. the kid's a stud. he's just an idiot for smoking pot on campus. hopefully i can say that since he's not a hs athlete? give him a year to straighten out hopefully. then i can see him being the elite receiver he is made out to be.
Only pass he'll catch this Saturday is puff puff pass
Lmmfao sawdust gd one! He messed up he'll b alright
made my night sawdust.
I think we all should remember he is still very young, and as a young person, we all know that we don't always use our best judgement. He is a great athlete with unbelievable talents. I'm sure coach P will help guide and support him. He deserves a chance to make it right.
wasn't there like 3 or 4 other guys also that got busted?
When they let it go in college then all of a sudden it is no big deal if they become pro. Maybe that is what is wrong with our athletic system and the perception it casts to the public. "It's always, well he/she goofed it won't happen again!"
You don't have to crucify these kids or pros but make it to where the kids that look up to them know that this is unacceptable..........period!
This kid is an outstanding athlete and needs to live up to a certain standard when he is a scholarship athlete! He does deserve another chance but he also needs to be under a BIG microscope making him think about it and his future choices!
His stats this year speak for him and he's been real lazy on the field and now we all know why.... He's been "Dazed and Confused!" Lol
I assume you're joking, but DGB hasn't been lazy on the field. He's been highlighted in the game film sessions for his downfield blocking and the TD he scored last Saturday was mainly a result of his will to find the endzone. He went down and got a low pass and broke a tackle. He hasn't been thrown at much because he isn't high in the reads. Obviously, Moe is usually the first receiver looked at many times. And, I'm not sold on Franklin's ability to check through more than a couple reads on a play. Part of that is the line not giving him time, however.
If I was a stud WR and James Franklin was my QB I think I may resort to some way of calming my nerves as well. I think Mizzou just wants some SEC street cred, all the other SEC schools usually have suspensions and such throughout the year so this maybe a recruiting ploy. I mean could they really be that dumb to sit in a White Lincoln Navigator in the middle of campus to smoke weed? He should have least waited till next week to avoid playing Alabama instead of Vanderbilt.
Unfortunately i got my hopes up and thought he might have maclin or danario type speed. Aint happenin. He may have appeared fast in hs but he hasnt impressed me like a 5star should. He's good but not special. Not a good sign he cant lay off the dope.
Maclin redshirted as a freshman. DGB is playing as a true freshman. There is no way you can judge yet whether he is 'special'. Also, there was a Heisman Candidate throwing to J-Mac.
Exactly my thoughts! Franklin is not even on the same map as Chase! And don't forget that Mizz had 2 all american TE's that took a lot of pressure off of Maklin! DGB will be fine remember he's only 18 or 19 has a lot of growing up to do
I watched DGB play in HS in person and most of his yards were yards after catch on short routes due to his size and speed. His physical abilities are what listed him as the #1 receiver in the nation. To use those abilities in college football and in the pros, he will need to be a better route runner because he can't always just run over people or past them like he did in HS. Now, Franklin is a big problem as well because I truthfully don't think he is accurate enough for passes past 10+ yards. I do understand he isn't given much time, but he has never been an accurate passer on anything beyond 5-10 yards usually. I would agree with yah-yah that Franklin doesn't do a good job at checking more than 1-2 reads on a play. However, I think DGB will do fine and be one of the best receivers in the nation by his Jr year if he quits the pot and puts in the work because God given ability will only take you so far.
Maclin and danario could blow past oklahomas dbacks, who were always the fastest in big12. Rarely if ever has zou had speed to outrun sooners. Dgb hasnt the speed to be what i'd call special, as he exhibited vs carolina and georgia. Maybe he'd excel as a tite end like rucker? Just my opinion that he's been way overhyped.
Cirit.....It sounds like you wouldnt call Usain Bolt fast.
Percy harvin uses marijuana and he's successful.. I don't tho k his personal time habits have anything to do with his play
think
Usain bolt is fast.
Well when I see an 18 year old kid thats 6'6" 230lbs and he can run 40 yards in 4.4 seconds....In my opinion thats "special" speed. When he caught that 25 yard post against UCF with 2 DB's beside him and he took it 55 more yards for the TD and the closest player to him was 10-15 yards behind him when he got to the end zone...I call that special.
The number of college athletels that use mariujana as a social drug is astounding. Most people don't notice this obviously because majority don't get caught in the process. DGB just got unlucky, even though he was smoking on campus. IMO, there isn't much difference between this and receiving some type of alcohol charge. Like stated above, this is similiar to being put in time-out compared to what some other SEC schools are facing as far as discipline problems right now. Don't judge the kid. A freshman mistake, plus it'll probably blowover soon.
and when you have all those talents, and decide to throw it away by doing drugs, thats not special.
He gets caught smokin a J and hes now become an addict, hes a bust, he cant run fast, this is becoming hilarious. Over 80% of Americans have done what Dorial did Weds night. He got caught, most do not. He'll be fine, he is an 18 year old kid who made a mistake. He has good parents, he has good coaches.
"getting caught" seems to be the concern, not actually doing something completely illegal. If "getting caught" was his only concern, then he needs to re-evaluate what his priorities are. You are given very few chances at his level to succeed. Some aren't willing to sacrifice things in order to succeed. How I was raised, smoking pot isn't just a small offense and a pat on the butt. Apparently the lesson wasn't received by him through High School.
I know a few people personally that played with him on select teams during high school and they used to tell me he smoked a lot. I shrugged it off but it's obviously true. If you were to conduct a survey of college athletes on drug and alcohol use some of you would be very surprised as to how prominent it is. Professional athletes do it to. No, it's not legal, but nobody cares as long as they don't hear about it and that player is getting them a win in Saturday or 20 fantasy points on Sunday.
To say DGB doesn't have the speed you were expecting is ignorant. He could've went just about anywhere in the country to run track. He's an enormous guy of course it doesn't look like he's moving as quick as the 6'2" guy along side him. Some people didn't think Kony would end up doing that well at mizzou. Then he went through a year and out on a bunch of muscle and gained some skill. Let's face it, DGB is a much better natural athlete than Kony is or was. Give him a year to bulk up and improve his football knowledge and the guy will be unstoppable.
Actually, getting caught with pot in Columbia is a small offense, smaller than a minor in possession of alcohol. He just had the misfortune of getting caught by campus police, instead of Columbia police, who probably would have looked the other way considering the amount in question. For pete's sake, he's just a kid who did something stupid. I wonder is there would have been the same uproar if he had been caught with a beer, which for him is just as illegal?
Pot smoking is stupid. If you get caught with it, you deserve the humiliation you get. I think coaches should go for the three game suspension for getting arrested personally. Not just in this case but in general. It'll teach kids that there are consequences to actions but of course the games are more important. Some schools are doing better to teach kids responsibility for their actions. Hugh Freeze, the new coach at Ole Miss will make a kid sit a quarter if they miss a class. We haven't seen what happens for a major violation yet but the focus for these kids to a degree needs to be on being students as well as athletes. I hope DGB learns a lesson from this but I doubt it.
Why do you doubt it? Do you know him personally?
Because I've seen enough pothead college athletes in my time. Didn't say he wouldn't learn his lesson. Just don't think he will. Gotta love the Mizzou apologist honks like Perkinsballer/DaleDoback.
No reason to get upset little buddy, you made a statement that seemed to me like only someone who knew the character of DGB would make. Just wondering if ya knew him.
Wow what an argument about how much other people do it. That's crap. What is this, middle school!? "but mooooom, everyone else is doing it". he has amazing talent, and this week he will contribute as much talent to the game as I will, none. And that's a shame. I also feel, me being a cancer survivor, I can't stand to see people harm their bodies on purpose. I feel like I can judge them. Maybe it's just one mistake, or as semosports reports, maybe it's not. But sometimes one is all it takes! And he is 18 or 19, playing SEC college football. It's time to grow and start being a man. He's gotta put away childish stuff. We don't call our 18 year olds in the military kids, their young men. I bet the ones in Vietnam didn't feel very much like kids. So I think people are making a lousy argument. And you can say we're getting worked up over something small, but to me it's not something small. Society has made it something small, but that still doesn't make it right. Hey maybe he will bounce back better than ever, or maybe he won't. Only time will tell. But COME ON MAN!
Not upset. Someone who is upset over the subject would try to turn the argument away from the subject to questioning the person making a counter-argument to try to deflect blame. I only see one person doing that.
Im not upset whatsoever. I could care less. Truth is the amount people acting like this is a big deal is mind blowing.
How dare us to want athletes to follow the law and expect coaches to hold them accountable to a strict standard when they don't?
The amount of people who think this is something small is mind blowing.
Kids mess up Sideline, I guess you never made a mistake from age 18-22.
Nope. Had enough sense in me not to.
I would take issue with the claim "80%" do it! And even if that were true, I would still maintain it is a "very big deal!"
I would take issue with the claim "80%" do it! And even if that were true, I would still maintain it is a "very big deal!"
I just wish they would arrest Dave Yost for looking like a woman and calling plays like he's on crack
might not be 80% but at least over 50% have tried it
The thing that bothers me the most are the kids that are watching him now. Weather he likes it or not. He is a roll model now to allot of young boys who love mizzou football. When he signed that scholarship he became a young man with responsibility. So for me it is a big deal. I'm a dad of two teenage boys. I don't want them thinking because there athletes its ok. If pot is no big deal he can ho home and smoke all he wants but not as part of the Tigers. I think the NCAA needs stiff penalties on drug use no matter how minor.
I know alot of stuff on DGB nobody else does its alot more than smoking pot, football wise he isn't able to understand offense. When that happens in college, I would be reluctant to draft in a pro system.
There is a reason he hasn't really been a factor thru 4 games, he isnt getting open, this isn't football in southwest mo, your in big boy league now.
Maybe they can frame his mugshot next to Pinkels
No way...college athletes don't party!! They're adults!! Get real...quit judging the kid that's not your job. He's not out there fighting or stealing, he's being a dumb @$$ with his boys, which is what college kids do. Give it a rest.