I said it was stupid to play him! Especially against Kennet!! He said he was 95% in teenager talk that means 50% you need him to make a run in playoffs not beat Kennet! And that's the truth

And I messed up in predicting all 4 teams will loose in quarters Valle will make it to Semi's

Beef I love what I have seen of Monroe but cleared or not especially with the field conditions last night as a coach I would not of played him! He is way to valuable! I hope he is ok I'm a big fan believe it or not!

Oh and PHC defense is really good really really good!! That I promise you

... It has won a few games for Sikeston and Oregon this year... neither team known for their superior size... So you're wrong again

SG would destroy cape and Jackson and will beat Cville n 2 weeks! With or with out Monroe

IMO SG and Sikeston are clearly the best 2 teams in Semo! I base my Poll on a week to week basis and SG beat a very very good Freddy team by 21 and Sikeston struggled against A weak Cape team! And what is it with cape they should be a contender every year! They have an abundance of kids to choose from and still can't put a winning product on the field!! I just tell it how I see it! Cville is less then half the size of cape and same for SG and they still are more competitive then cape!

I ain't talking hoops and speed alone does not win u games if you can't block and execute or know the play then what good does it do! In football speed can work for you and against you and a good coach will figure out away to make it hurt u wether its running a screen or draws there's way to slow speed down

Oh and I remember a few years ago when another Sikeston team beat a good Fredrick town team by 22 and had 6 turnovers and at least 3 of those were totally unforced... It's a different level of athlete we can look at track too if you want... basically any sport were sikeston uses it's best athletes is better than SG just sayin

Worse come to worse an SG does lose to CV they will still be top draw in the district on appeal due to beating PHC. So congrats SG on top seed and a cake walk to the finals.

I know your not bashing, it doesn't bother me really. With the conditions the way they were, me personally, I wouldn't have played him. Now, that's not to say the coaches were wrong with playing him. He was cleared by the doctors and the coaching staff to play, and he felt he could play, so I saw nothing wrong with it. He didn't get very many carries, and play a little bit on defense. He looked pretty good on defense as always and he looked back to form running the rock. On the play he got injured, he carried a guy who outweighed him by at least 60-70 pounds 10 yards before re-injuring his ankle. I don't think the coaches made the wrong call, Darrell wanted to get back out there so they let him. As I said, me personally, he would have stayed his butt on the sideline til the SG game. However, I'm not the coach and i'm not going to question how they do things. I support them 110%. Without him, this is still a VERY dangerous team.

Speed does help but its not real huge,look at Webb City

SG isnt Webb... and just for the Record Speed is Huge... If Sikeston is slow they arn't 7-0 they're more like 0-7

And what would the SEC be if they were slow? I'll tell you what they'd be, they be the big 10... and they would be average just like the big ten. So tell me again how speed isn't a big factor in football

I've refrained from commenting on this thread all year, but you've kind of touched a nerve ths week. You also come off very ignorant and possibly a little delusional so I'll try to open your eyes here since I have nothing better to do right now than to pester your thread.

First, strength of schedule starting with yours: Valle is a very good team, in fact they're 6th in state. The only thing about that is that they are in class 1. Let me know how many players on a top 10 team in class 1 go D2 or D1 in the next two years. MRH is ranked 24th in class 2. You beat them by 8, 30-22. Charleston, Malden, and Caruthersville are just a couple local teams ranked ahead of them. Potosi has a losing record and you beat them by 16 while they lost to MRH by 40. I don't need to say anything more on Potosi after listing that. PHC is ranked 15th in class 3, 5 spots behind you. You beat them by 1 and they only beat MRH 7-0. They have a couple quality wins over some teams that used to be very good and have fell off a little. Still though, they're ranked behind you so you should beat them. Freddy is another class 3 team that you beat, they are ranked 22nd so again you should have beat them and you did by a good margin. I left out Dexter and Perryville obviously because I didn't feel the need to list anything about them. Your remaining schedule is against a very weak class 4 team in desoto and a very good team in Cville who I believe you will lose to. I'm not sure how you can call that a really strong schedule for a class 3 school much less the strongest in SEMO.

Since dogs brought up Cape having the strongest schedule I'll use them for this example. Cape played JB the closest of any team this year. I don't care if they are a class below, they will win state in class 3 if they are healthy. They have multiple D1 athletes on that team. THEY ARE GOOD! Cape then beat SCW handily. They are nothing great, but have a winning record and are 26th in class 4. Again, they aren't special, but it was a no doubt win against a solid class 4 team. Followed that with a saturday win at Poplar Bluff; a team with a losing record, but 3 of those being to Cape, Jackson, and Sikeston. Not great team but a decent class 5 team. Again the game wasn't in question. Then a 2 touchdown loss at FZE who is ranked 12th in class 5. They took the lead and pulled away late after a controversial play against Cape which apparently took down team moral. That's a loss to another very good team this one being class 5. The next week was a loss to 11th ranked in class 5 Jackson. The loss was in the closing minutes of the game and could've been avoided with a made extra point and a failed 2 point conversion. The most recent loss being to Sikeston which is ranked 4th in class 4. Cape had the lead most of the game, our offense just stalled/sikeston's defense woke up after the first quarter. BTW Cape's remaining schedule is Chaminade, who has a losing record but has lost to huge public and private schools. I believe all of their losses are to top 10 teams in their class. Finishing off the schedule is Festus, ranked 25th in class 4, a solid class 4 team.

Please try again telling me you have the toughest schedule in SEMO.

Next subject, speed. Simply put speed kills. People think of speed just in skill positions, but forget about the line play and linebackers. Sikeston was outsized on the line against Cape Friday night, but they were able to win because their defensive linemen were faster off the ball and were able to get through the line as a result. On offense they dominate because their line is quick enough to make a hole before the defense can close it and their backs are fast enough to either get throught the hole or break something outside before anybody gets in the backfield. If speed wasn't the name of the game then Cape's offense would be unstoppable; they have big strong linemen and good backs. Faster teams are just able to close everything off before developement as seen by all the tackles for a loss and sacks. Cape would've beat JB if it were not for their speed all around. So to end this rant, speed dominates the game in high schools and mostly in college.

Don't talk about schools you know nothing about. I'm speaking of the comments about Cape being so big and yet not living up to expectations. You must understand that a lot of Cape's attendance isn't even at the high school, it's at the alternaive learning center. Cape also has a very tough school academically. We have multiple athletes every year that can't make grades here, then transfer somewhere else and make grades high enough to participate.

That should about wrap it up, it's quite the novel and I hope you take the time to read it and become a little enlightened.

Bleed Green, Semoball is a product of the Southeast Missourian, and they cover and compile articles from other area newspapers. I do not believe any of the newspapers that contribute to Semoball cover SG, PHC, or Freddy. So I do not think it is Semoball that "refuses" to add them to the site. It's just the newspapers in charge do not cover those schools. I would love it if those schools were covered, they have some passionate fans ;). As for the list, ummmmmmmmmmmmmm, I would prolly put sikeston 1, and SG 2.

So cape high school is the Harvard of southeast Missouri? And MRH was the #1 team in the state when SG played them. And for the record SG is above average.

The reason the teams from the West have won is they are better teams. You cant teach speed and it can make up for so much. If you dont think team speed is a HUGE factor in success than your in the dark

So your saying if you got average speed but you are a great team HUGE speed doesnt matter,then you say SPEED is HUGE for a team to have success.I think thats what i have been saying,a good team can make Speed a non factor.Speed is good to have but just because you have it doesnt make you a great team

Speed can cover up a lot of mistakes. I would think a football fan would understand that. You make a wrong read on defense, someone with speed can make that up and still make a play. Ste Gen lost to MRH for one reason. MRH had athletes that could make up for mistakes in which they made a ton. I team without those type of athletes wins 3-4 games with the way they play football

I've lived on both sides of the state and if you think speed is regionalized to the east you are dead wrong... It also helps that there are more large schools that make them improve as the season goes on... It has more of a football atmosphere than this side of the state in general

I said before the season that Cape would be lucky to break .500 this year, but not because of their skill. They lost to Farmington at Farmington after their leading back left the game. You can't use one game instances. The Cardinals just beat the Braves in a 1 game playoff after playing horrible against them during the regular season; anything can happen in one game. Cape amassed more yardage against sikeston Friday than they have in the past 2 seasons so please tell me how they aren't a good team. Just because everybody hyped them up preseason doesn't mean anything, they have played te toughest schedule without a doubt.

The teams from the west match eastern teams in speed but they are bigger all around and have studs for quarterbacks. That is why they are better. There have been too many examples posted to prove that speed kills so please stop trying to argue that.

Speed alone DOES NOT WIN GAMES and I will argue that all day long!!

Don't waste your time semosports, I already tried to explain that.

You're right blee, speed alone doesnt win games but in this instance it's the difference between sikeston and every team in your area... speed can be the difference between a loss of yards and a touchdown so the fact remains that speed is a huge factor in football as in any sport. And your lack of understandin of this concept shows ignorance toward the game

Let's see Sonic, there was a year where Sikeston LOST to Fredericktown......

Bleed...I think you bumped your head. Nice try though.

We lost to Freddy at Freddy in 08, the second year for Gibbs. Then, we beat them at Sikeston the year after that in the first of thirteen straight victories. Also, Bleed Green is still a homer.

Bleed Green.....I'm following ya. We're on the same page.I was just referring to SG, PHC and FRED as "Non-semo" teams.....which we all know is a bit silly.

On the other hand, these three programs are simply not a huge part of this site and it's coverage. It's just how it is...

SemoSports I agree with everything you said. Speed wins games. Sideline can agree with me here, the main reason Sikeston beat Jackson this year is because of speed. Jackson wasn't fast enough to beat them.

You are exactly right. Bleed Green, who is the defensive player for you all who has a lot of sacks?

Is he getting recruited pretty heavily?

That's good. SIU likes those St. Gen players

Last I heard Terrana was being recruited by quite a few schools, none out of the picture yet. Memphis is on his list as well as schools around the semo area. And if I may put my two cents in, speed does make you a better football player but I have seen a lot of h.s. plays with speed that were not good football players. Score a lot faster with speed guys and they can make defending very difficult.

Dude if you read my post I said speed is good to have,your the one that says its HUGE.Nowhere did I say get the biggest people either,you just read what you want to read.I have seen many games where a team is faster than the other and lose.Speed may help you in the bootheel but once you get deep in the playoffs good teams can stop HUGE speed.Good teams can handle HUGE speed.

Footballfan29 do you really believe that? If you do your the one drinking the wine!! I guess we will never know but I've seen Jackson and Cape play and SG would beat them 9-10 times that I know! Sikeston and SG would be a great game. But like I said we will never know

footballfan29 is smoking crack.

I think the fact that Bleed Green is such a homer is blinding some people here to the fact that SG is a really good football team. They are very capable of beating Sikeston, Cape, or Jackson. The same goes for PHC.

Question for you Bleed...do you think Sikeston's defense is good?? IMO, this defense is better than the 2009 defense that played Hilas. Honestly, if this defense played on the 2009 team or 2010 team it would've been in the dome. SG is a VERY good team, but they wouldn't beat Sikeston this year. It would prolly be like 29-13 or somewhere in that area. If, you think Cape isn't a good team your a fool. I predict another Sikeston Cape battle in the playoffs.

... dog you are delusional about how good this defense is trust me. the only position where this defense is better than that defense is DE.

I think it completely depends on who they play, class 4 in the east is down this year... I'll say this much They've got a much tougher road ahead than what they've had thus far.

i'll say this... i'd rather have a team of skill players that run 4.8 forties, lineman that run 5.7 forties, and linebackers that run 5.0 forties that have near perfect fundamentals than a bunch of 4.4 forty running players that can't block, catch, run, pass, or throw. like old man coach ford says, "the best way to beat speed is to make them run sideways." with a fast running back, if you make them run east and west they cant gain any yards.if you play solid zone against receivers, you can cover speed. i will agree that speed kills, but you can defend speed with solid fundamentals. look what freddy did to eli jackson in '08. he was faster than any player freddy had and he had 122 yards when he could have easily had 250 with his speed and size. that's why teams like freddy do pursuit drills in practice. it helps you prepare for speed.

Dog yes I do think Sikestons D is good I think Sikeston is good I've already said that I'm not gonna tell u that SG will beat them by 35 like one of the previous post says Sikeston will do to SG!! But I do believe SG can beat Sikeston. I knew I'd get you Sikeston boys wound up!!

Bleed Green reminds me of the threads last year from BluGold!

Both are brick walls!!

Have you seen SG and PHC? No you haven't if you have you would of never said that last comment. Thats my problem with most of you u sit here and say I've seen cape Sikeston and Jackson play they will beat you by 40! And u never seen SG or PHC play! I have and I saw cape vs JB I saw Sikeston vs Farm and Jackson vs Sikeston and I'm telling you from what I saw SG and PHC will beat all 3!! Especially cape and Jackson and why is cape even mentioned heck I can name several schools that could beat cape! Cape should worry about winning THERE 3 GAME instead of worrying about how good they should be

Not a homer here, but SG would give the Bulldogs a good game. Probably two of the best coaches in the area at making adjustments when needed. It would be an interesting game to see. I think the SG/Caruthersville game next Friday will be interesting too...

JB can name the score on any game they have left. And Ste Genevieve will have the only two teams in the area left playing that day.

Some one shouldve told Bryant Allen from Maplewood (Couple years back) you cant gain yards running East and West. Due to his speed, he ran 225 yards for a 60 yard TD lol

Homer

uh oh you just started it BG time to feel sidelines wrath.

Also no-one has said anything in response to how Oregon is a prime example of how speed is a huge factor in football. I wonder why that is?

You healthy... they still beat you by more than they did Cape. Cape was on their way to pull within 8 in the fourth when a penalty and then the running back went wrong way on 4th down stopping there drive in Burrough's territory. Burroughs scored twice in the last 5 min of the game to pull away like they did. And I watched them last year and this year twice and they are better than last year's Burroughs team. They could have scored 80+ last year on you! This year you might score more than once on them I will give you that but you will not stop them!

Someone's upset.

I'll say this much last years st gen team would have been donkeykong stomped on by sikeston... And that's all that really matters to me

You should stick around and comment on sikeston basketball!

Oh geez I have a feeling there a 100 times worse about there basketball team!! All I know about basketball from Semo is Charelston usually is really good really good!

And yes basketball forums are much more fierce than football down here

No basketball around here is bad!!

Is Charelston still THE team down there?

So to answer your question, Charleston is in the discussion most years and currently have the claim as the best team until somebody knocks them off.

Yes, although you prolly won't get that answer on this site unless He Hate Me chimes in haha!

They weren't the best in 2012 though Buck. He's just going by who the best team was or could have a claim in each year. SCC lost a lot of games to teams that weren't that great last year.

They were the best in class 1 though.

I understand that, I was just disagreeing to an extent. Who does sikeston have coming back this year, I can't recall!? JT gonna be good!?

I was just answering the guy's question. It's just one man's opinion.

Sikeston has back JT, Vashawn Ruffin, and Markeith Bratcher, all of whom were among our top four or five scorers, as our key pieces plus Kyland Gross, Cord Sheehy, Reese Porter who all got varsity time and a whole host of kids coming up from JV who will be really good and kids who didn't play last year. They'll be 10+ deep again.

BleedGreen = Homer

Great point BIG G!!

I don't think anybody on here is saying that speed is not crucial in football, the debate is its relative importance versus things like size, fundamentals, coaching, etc.

And anybody on here who thinks Cape, Jackson, or Sikeston would blow SG or PHC out just doesn't know what they're talking about. Both teams are very talented, esp. on defense, and that's gonna keep them in most games. PHC's ball control offense is also going to give most teams fits. Ste. Gen has a monster OL and DL. I wouldn't rank Ste. Gen #1, but if you were to include them in the Semoball area, I think both the Dragons and the Rebels would be in the top 5.

i can bet that the slowest player on maplewood's team is faster than 90% of the kids on park hill's team. not bashing park hills kids. but those boys are FAST.

i know speed makes up for a lot. ryan sawyer was one of the fastest players freddy has ever had. he was also one of the most undisciplined corners freddy had. but if he got burnt on a go route, he could catch up to any receiver freddy played and make a play.

if you're a running back and you can't read holes or have no blocking, you aren't going to gain many yards against even an average defense. a slow running back with great vision will kill you. (david penwell for freddy back in '06)

you guys call BG a homer but as soon as anyone says anything about sikeston, you go berserk. if anyone mentions the "borderline" northern semo teams being able to hang with sikeston, jackson, or cape, we don't know what we're talking about. i'm wondering how many people have seen freddy, SG, and PHC play besides c'ville fans. i've seen jackson, cape, sikeston, and jackson play. i can tell you for a fact that freddy, SG, and PHC can hang with jackson, sikeston, and cape. not saying they will win, but they will not get blown out of the water like a lot of you think. freddy MURDERED farmington during the summer without sawyer, reide roberts, and zach proffer. i know its full contact camp and means nothing, but it gives you an idea of how good teams from the north are. call me a homer like i know you will... but i am not going to be like BG and say that the northern boys will KILL sikeston. we aren't the teams you schedule for homecoming anymore. unless it's SG scheduling freddy... lol.

and like i've said before, if semoball is going to consider marquand, ellington, van buren, and greenville in "southeast missouri" then there is NO reason PHC, and for sure SG and freddy in southeast missouri. every southeast missouri map has those towns in semo.

What are all the Dist standings? Can someone post all them class 1-5 don't really care about class 6

Where did I ever say that Ste. Gen or PHC couldn't beat Sikeston? Nowhere. While all of you argue over speed as if it is the only reason why Sikeston is any good at all, a lot of other factors about them are being ignored. A lot of the arguments against speed are that disciplined teams know how to stop it and that teams built on speed don't tend to have a lot of discipline when playing. That isn't a problem with this Sikeston team. They understand their assignments on defense and swarm to the ball. They are fundamentally sound tacklers (other than in the first quarter against Cape). They also understand that sometimes they have to allow yardage in order to prevent the big play. In my talks with guys on the team, they knew that against a team like Jackson with lots of different weapons that they would have to give up some short-yardage passes over the middle. That's what they wanted Jackson to target since they could only complete them so much. Meanwhile, they prevented them from going over the top and from getting the running game going and gave the Indians their first loss. They understand their gameplan and strategy and stick to it. They aren't as big as most of their opponents but they are traditionally better conditioned, obviously faster, but also right there with them in terms of discipline and football IQ which is being ignored in this discussion. Some of the best teams in the state and nation (and I'm not trying to make the case for either, just making a point) will beat teams that aren't even nearly on the same level as them by scores of 21-14 or 17-7 and people don't understand how they end up in deep playoff runs and championship games. They play disciplined football and wait for their opponents to make mistakes and capitalize. That is what Sikeston does and that is why they were able to stop a team like Cape completely from the end of the first quarter on (didn't allow a first down past mid-second quarter and allowed -7 yards of Cape offense in the second half).

Bleed Green is the biggest homer this website has seen in about six or eight months since BlueGold was making out Scott City to be a state basketball contender and is blinded from how good Sikeston is due to the fact he doesn't like us fans. He says Sikeston is either playing down to their opponent or getting a big head, neither of which is true in the least especially the second one. What he is used to is seeing the "good" teams win in blowouts because that is the only way that Ste. Gen knows how to win a game. This Sikeston team has a good offense but isn't built to ring up forty every game like the 09 and 10 teams. They are built to capitalize on your mistakes on both sides of the ball while having the discipline not to make mistakes of their own on defense. They may let you drive down the field but they are built to stop you when they have to.

Again, I've never said that Sikeston would kill Ste. Gen or PHC. Sikeston and PHC are similar with the disciplined defense but one offense relies on long, sustained drives while the other relies on causing mistakes and capitalizing on them. Personally, yes, I do think Sikeston is the best team in the area no matter what boundaries you put on it but not by some dominating margin. BG wants to make it out like I'm some sort of blind worshipper when he is the one who cannot take off the homer glasses. I don't see why I always get thrown into these discussions of the most supremely biased people on here when I didn't even have my own team first in my own top five rankings until they beat a team that looked like they were better than them. To those of you saying that all Sikeston fans think we are already a lock for a matchup with Webb City in the semi-finals or something, no we do not. (Most) Sikeston fans understand that you have to look at football one week at a time. I've never said we were going to even out and out win a game this season. I say who I "think" is going to win based off of a given reasoning. I don't say that someone just will win and there is no possibility in the other direction whether Sikeston is playing East Prairie or Webb City. Every single game, your team, no matter who it is, must execute on a high level and come out with confidence but not cockiness or there is always a chance of losing. (Most of) our fans both on this site and in the stands understand that wholeheartedly. We've seen our team lose too many times in games we thought we should have won in the past. Due to the college I root for, I more than understand that no game is a given. I was raised to expect the team I root for to lose every game. Sikeston fans get that no game is a given. However, we also know the talent of our team.

Sikeston baby!!

hey i agree that speed is an amazing asset. you get a team like sikeston, SG, freddy, or valle that usually has speed on the line and most skill positions, with the coaching staffs that they have, the sky is the limit on their skills. take jacob farmer from freddy. he went from a decent rb his freshman year to one of the best in the area his senior year. or stevenson from nmcc. i remember him as a freshman, crazy fast and shifty, but wasn't the best at reading holes or blocks. by his senior year he was THE best football player in SEMO. and i was grouping all of the BG haters together sideline. i like you. and i agree bleed can be a homer. but like people have said about the c'ville fans, "they're having a great year. let them have their fun on here." SG has been kinda down the past few years.

Daddy- Are you sure you mean Cville fan's and not Portageville fans? Not many Cville fans get on here to begin with and much less brag about anything. Also, We usually have a good season every year so it's not like winning is new to us.

Sikeston was fair at best for years, then they got themselves a coach, started beating all the local teams half their size then all of a sudden their semi pro. They are very high on themselves while not to impressive to others. The only way they're getting into the dome is with a ticket.

Looks like Central playing that tough schedule won't get them a home game after all. IMO they are a much better team than North County..Hopefully Central will correct that next year now that they understand the system.

Well as far as Cape Central getting to #4, who are their remaining opponents? They win both and NC loses both, the points will be close. Win by more than 13 points to get more district points too.

NC is playing Potosi and Fredericktown. Should be two tough games for the Raiders. Cape should be able to handle Chaminade.

Cape still has an outside shot at the three seed in their district. They need to finish in fourth with Festus in third which is doable and defeat Festus in the regular season finale. They can then use the seed appeal process to say they should be above Festus for winning the head-to-head and take the 3 seed from them.

"They are same team you saw last year," Dexter coach Aaron Pixley said after Wednesday's practice. "Huge, big physical back. Good play action passing game. Obviously one the best running games in Southeast Missouri. And a very, very aggressive defense. If you take a look at some of the scores, they haven't given up very many points this year."

coach pixley must be delusional! PHC isn't in SEMO!!!

I'm new to the site so I just got to read this. Semosports I assume u are a sports writer. And I am in no way being disrespectful but when was MRH ever ranked #24. When we (PHC) played them they were #1 class 2a and third in st. Louis.

I figured it was something weird because we'vs been ranked for a few weeks to. Haven't seen the new rankings after Monday yet.