After 7 weeks of play these teams have clearly separated from the rest. As you know I do my top 5 because Semoball refuses to add SG PHC and Freddy to its coverage and most of you are biased towards these teams I'm guessing because there better then most of the Semo teams!
1. SG Dragons they have played by far the toughest schedule in Semo. I here teams complaining about injuries! SG has list 4 starters all out for the year and all four are or would of had a shot at being all state. They can run the spread or line it up and run it! They are giving up 50 yds a game on the ground! But do struggle on the pass D although it has gotten a lot better. They will b 11-1 when they meet JB in Quarters!
2. Sikeston IMO Sikeston is either playing down to there competition or getting a big head. If they continue to play like this they wont win there Dist. I believe coach Gibbs will pull them together and win there Dist.
3. PHC. If they were to play Sikeston today I believe they would have a great shot at beating them. The only reason I believe they are a little better is there coaching staff is way better then PHC. I believe they have a good shot st making champ game of Dist but will have to beat Freddy and that won't be easy
4. Cville they have fought injuries all year but continue to win. If Monroe's ankle is as bad as everyone is saying don't plan on them making a run in the playoffs. IMO there coach should of sat him out last night for heavan sakes they played Kennet!! Stupid!
5. Jackson haven't played the toughest schedule but only loss is to a good Sikeston team. This team is young and will be good next year and the years following but will not make a playoff run this year. I believe the #5 spot is a toss up with Freddy but since Jackson's record is better ill role with them
Bottom line is this Semo football is down this year and due to the new scheduling a few teams will make it farther then recent years There will be 4 teams in Semo that will make Quarters Valle Sikeston SG and Cville and none will win! So there you have it let the bashing begin!!
Come on BG don't come on here questioning coaching staff, Monroe was ready to come back and was cleared by doctors to play. The coach was being more cautious with him not letting him start at RB he did however started at DE and did well when he was out there. His injury just got re-aggravated when he busted that run up the middle and a d-lineman jumped on his back and he came down funny on that ankle.
There are not to many kids in week 7 that are not banged up in some way or another and are still out there helping THEIR team win. So never come on here and call any coaching staff stupid unless you know the full details.
I said it was stupid to play him! Especially against Kennet!! He said he was 95% in teenager talk that means 50% you need him to make a run in playoffs not beat Kennet! And that's the truth
I'm just gonna put it like this, You clearly have no idea what your talking about, the only team you played with speed similar to Sikeston was maplewood and you lost. And I promise you that Sikeston's defense is better than everyone you have played... So basically, like in conclusion, YOU ARE DELUSIONAL ABOUT SG
And I messed up in predicting all 4 teams will loose in quarters Valle will make it to Semi's
Why was it stupid to play him? He was cleared by doctors, he was not out there wobbling around pre-kickoff and played almost 2 full quarters at DE and showed no signs of his injury bothering him. This ankle was re-injured its not like he was limping anytime before the guy rode his back. This coach took all of the precautions and limited his carries throughout that first half.
You know if it were stupid me and cheese would be on here saying it was for bringing him back before he was 100%, a high ankle sprain is a tough injury to come back from. There is no doubt that we could have beat Kennett regardless if he played or not but I think it was time for him to get back on the field. With districts and St. Gen coming up he wanted him to get back in football shape mentally.
Beef I love what I have seen of Monroe but cleared or not especially with the field conditions last night as a coach I would not of played him! He is way to valuable! I hope he is ok I'm a big fan believe it or not!
Speed dosnt win games! I'm sorry SG has played a very tough schedule if Sikeston were to play there schedule they would have 2 losses! You Sikeston fans think your untouchable! Guess what your not you bash me for being a homer but you all are the same way.
Oh and PHC defense is really good really really good!! That I promise you
... It has won a few games for Sikeston and Oregon this year... neither team known for their superior size... So you're wrong again
Bleed Green your nuts on several aspects. First of all, Cape, IMO, has played the toughest. Also, playing down to their oppents???? Your nuts. Sikeston played a very poor 1st qt last night. After the first qt they let up, I believe, around 60 total yards. Offense is not the best. But there's no way there's a better defense in Semo than Sikeston's. no way. I respect your opinion and your poll, but SG is 4th or 5th at best. IMO I think Sikeston, CVille, Cape or Jackson, then...maybe SG.
SG would destroy cape and Jackson and will beat Cville n 2 weeks! With or with out Monroe
And speed is a HUGE factor in all sports it's the same reason why Sikeston beats the Northern district every year in basketball in that "home Game" of a neutral site for the northern teams. We might as well play it at Farmington.
IMO SG and Sikeston are clearly the best 2 teams in Semo! I base my Poll on a week to week basis and SG beat a very very good Freddy team by 21 and Sikeston struggled against A weak Cape team! And what is it with cape they should be a contender every year! They have an abundance of kids to choose from and still can't put a winning product on the field!! I just tell it how I see it! Cville is less then half the size of cape and same for SG and they still are more competitive then cape!
I ain't talking hoops and speed alone does not win u games if you can't block and execute or know the play then what good does it do! In football speed can work for you and against you and a good coach will figure out away to make it hurt u wether its running a screen or draws there's way to slow speed down
Something I've learned Being around football my whole life is that if you're running a lot of screens and draws and they arn't blitzing you're prolly gonna lose... Because that means the other team is too good for you to block...Just sayin
Oh and I remember a few years ago when another Sikeston team beat a good Fredrick town team by 22 and had 6 turnovers and at least 3 of those were totally unforced... It's a different level of athlete we can look at track too if you want... basically any sport were sikeston uses it's best athletes is better than SG just sayin
Without Monroe, I'll give SG the edge in the game. With Monroe, Cville all day. I don't deal with absolutes though, could make a person out to be a fool. Nothing is certain in the game of football.
Worse come to worse an SG does lose to CV they will still be top draw in the district on appeal due to beating PHC. So congrats SG on top seed and a cake walk to the finals.
Cheese I just hope Monroe is ok! I'm not trying to bash there coaches but you guys have a real good shot if making it far but without him you don't! All I was saying was in those conditions last night and your opponent he would not of dressed! Or at least not played RB you gotta agree with that!
I know your not bashing, it doesn't bother me really. With the conditions the way they were, me personally, I wouldn't have played him. Now, that's not to say the coaches were wrong with playing him. He was cleared by the doctors and the coaching staff to play, and he felt he could play, so I saw nothing wrong with it. He didn't get very many carries, and play a little bit on defense. He looked pretty good on defense as always and he looked back to form running the rock. On the play he got injured, he carried a guy who outweighed him by at least 60-70 pounds 10 yards before re-injuring his ankle. I don't think the coaches made the wrong call, Darrell wanted to get back out there so they let him. As I said, me personally, he would have stayed his butt on the sideline til the SG game. However, I'm not the coach and i'm not going to question how they do things. I support them 110%. Without him, this is still a VERY dangerous team.
And if his ankle is bad enough, he wouldn't play til districts start. The SG game means nothing as far as playoffs go. I'd rather have him 100% for the playoffs.
Speed does help but its not real huge,look at Webb City
When SG play Burroughs they will see enough speed to last them till next season.
SG isnt Webb... and just for the Record Speed is Huge... If Sikeston is slow they arn't 7-0 they're more like 0-7
and if Oregon was slow... what would they be?
And what would the SEC be if they were slow? I'll tell you what they'd be, they be the big 10... and they would be average just like the big ten. So tell me again how speed isn't a big factor in football
maybe team speed is good to have in the bootheel but against teams on the westside speed doesnt matter that much.I never said SG was Webb
I've refrained from commenting on this thread all year, but you've kind of touched a nerve ths week. You also come off very ignorant and possibly a little delusional so I'll try to open your eyes here since I have nothing better to do right now than to pester your thread.
First, strength of schedule starting with yours: Valle is a very good team, in fact they're 6th in state. The only thing about that is that they are in class 1. Let me know how many players on a top 10 team in class 1 go D2 or D1 in the next two years. MRH is ranked 24th in class 2. You beat them by 8, 30-22. Charleston, Malden, and Caruthersville are just a couple local teams ranked ahead of them. Potosi has a losing record and you beat them by 16 while they lost to MRH by 40. I don't need to say anything more on Potosi after listing that. PHC is ranked 15th in class 3, 5 spots behind you. You beat them by 1 and they only beat MRH 7-0. They have a couple quality wins over some teams that used to be very good and have fell off a little. Still though, they're ranked behind you so you should beat them. Freddy is another class 3 team that you beat, they are ranked 22nd so again you should have beat them and you did by a good margin. I left out Dexter and Perryville obviously because I didn't feel the need to list anything about them. Your remaining schedule is against a very weak class 4 team in desoto and a very good team in Cville who I believe you will lose to. I'm not sure how you can call that a really strong schedule for a class 3 school much less the strongest in SEMO.
Since dogs brought up Cape having the strongest schedule I'll use them for this example. Cape played JB the closest of any team this year. I don't care if they are a class below, they will win state in class 3 if they are healthy. They have multiple D1 athletes on that team. THEY ARE GOOD! Cape then beat SCW handily. They are nothing great, but have a winning record and are 26th in class 4. Again, they aren't special, but it was a no doubt win against a solid class 4 team. Followed that with a saturday win at Poplar Bluff; a team with a losing record, but 3 of those being to Cape, Jackson, and Sikeston. Not great team but a decent class 5 team. Again the game wasn't in question. Then a 2 touchdown loss at FZE who is ranked 12th in class 5. They took the lead and pulled away late after a controversial play against Cape which apparently took down team moral. That's a loss to another very good team this one being class 5. The next week was a loss to 11th ranked in class 5 Jackson. The loss was in the closing minutes of the game and could've been avoided with a made extra point and a failed 2 point conversion. The most recent loss being to Sikeston which is ranked 4th in class 4. Cape had the lead most of the game, our offense just stalled/sikeston's defense woke up after the first quarter. BTW Cape's remaining schedule is Chaminade, who has a losing record but has lost to huge public and private schools. I believe all of their losses are to top 10 teams in their class. Finishing off the schedule is Festus, ranked 25th in class 4, a solid class 4 team.
Please try again telling me you have the toughest schedule in SEMO.
Next subject, speed. Simply put speed kills. People think of speed just in skill positions, but forget about the line play and linebackers. Sikeston was outsized on the line against Cape Friday night, but they were able to win because their defensive linemen were faster off the ball and were able to get through the line as a result. On offense they dominate because their line is quick enough to make a hole before the defense can close it and their backs are fast enough to either get throught the hole or break something outside before anybody gets in the backfield. If speed wasn't the name of the game then Cape's offense would be unstoppable; they have big strong linemen and good backs. Faster teams are just able to close everything off before developement as seen by all the tackles for a loss and sacks. Cape would've beat JB if it were not for their speed all around. So to end this rant, speed dominates the game in high schools and mostly in college.
Don't talk about schools you know nothing about. I'm speaking of the comments about Cape being so big and yet not living up to expectations. You must understand that a lot of Cape's attendance isn't even at the high school, it's at the alternaive learning center. Cape also has a very tough school academically. We have multiple athletes every year that can't make grades here, then transfer somewhere else and make grades high enough to participate.
That should about wrap it up, it's quite the novel and I hope you take the time to read it and become a little enlightened.
Good post SemoSports.
Bleed Green, Semoball is a product of the Southeast Missourian, and they cover and compile articles from other area newspapers. I do not believe any of the newspapers that contribute to Semoball cover SG, PHC, or Freddy. So I do not think it is Semoball that "refuses" to add them to the site. It's just the newspapers in charge do not cover those schools. I would love it if those schools were covered, they have some passionate fans ;). As for the list, ummmmmmmmmmmmmm, I would prolly put sikeston 1, and SG 2.
Oh and Webb City wins like how Navy used to win, They out execute everybody they play especially on offense
So cape high school is the Harvard of southeast Missouri? And MRH was the #1 team in the state when SG played them. And for the record SG is above average.
Like I said SPEED is good to have but its not that huge,go sit at the Dome thanksgiving weekend and watch these teams from the west handle the speed from the east or if Sikeston and Webb City meet up report to me how all that SPEED works out.
The reason the teams from the West have won is they are better teams. You cant teach speed and it can make up for so much. If you dont think team speed is a HUGE factor in success than your in the dark
I read your article and sounds like I hit a nerve I'm but cape is really down this year you can argue all u want but it's not going to change the fact that there going to win 4 or 5 games! They lost to Farm that says it all! And like I said if Sikeston played SG schedule they would have 2 losses PHC and MWood IMO you can sit there and say speed kills but like hb1025 says go to the dome JB was the faster of the 2 teams last year and they got beat and for a fact Eastern teams are considered faster then the western and look at there record in state games the west side has been winning way more state titles then the east side! Guess that's just luck!
So your saying if you got average speed but you are a great team HUGE speed doesnt matter,then you say SPEED is HUGE for a team to have success.I think thats what i have been saying,a good team can make Speed a non factor.Speed is good to have but just because you have it doesnt make you a great team
I guess they should change how football is played and line both teams up and run a 40 yard dash.the team that wins the most races wins the game.
Speed can cover up a lot of mistakes. I would think a football fan would understand that. You make a wrong read on defense, someone with speed can make that up and still make a play. Ste Gen lost to MRH for one reason. MRH had athletes that could make up for mistakes in which they made a ton. I team without those type of athletes wins 3-4 games with the way they play football
Well sorry for not being an expert and a fan,and if you seen the SG-MRH game thats not the only reason SG lost,and I think a football fan would understand that.
I've lived on both sides of the state and if you think speed is regionalized to the east you are dead wrong... It also helps that there are more large schools that make them improve as the season goes on... It has more of a football atmosphere than this side of the state in general
wow....this post has turned into a mess!!!!!
Sure....PHC, FRED and SG would beat 98% of SEMO teams at the moment........but I highly doubt that anyone blatantly "refused" to cover them.
I said before the season that Cape would be lucky to break .500 this year, but not because of their skill. They lost to Farmington at Farmington after their leading back left the game. You can't use one game instances. The Cardinals just beat the Braves in a 1 game playoff after playing horrible against them during the regular season; anything can happen in one game. Cape amassed more yardage against sikeston Friday than they have in the past 2 seasons so please tell me how they aren't a good team. Just because everybody hyped them up preseason doesn't mean anything, they have played te toughest schedule without a doubt.
The teams from the west match eastern teams in speed but they are bigger all around and have studs for quarterbacks. That is why they are better. There have been too many examples posted to prove that speed kills so please stop trying to argue that.
Zach if Fredricktown is not considered Semo then please tell me where it is. If your going to Use the name Semo in your title don't you think u should cover all Semo teams not just the ones u pick and choose and yes SG county and St Francois county and Madison county is in SEMO!!
Speed alone DOES NOT WIN GAMES and I will argue that all day long!!
It's based on the newspapers. If Rachel interjects she can explain it better than any of us.
Don't waste your time semosports, I already tried to explain that.
I dont believe the theory west side QB's are better than the east,the west side plays a smash mouth style run in your face football and they are very good at it.Yeah they may pass alittle but when you run the ball 80% of the game that opens up the pass.Look at Webb Citys lineup and they arent very big.Teams on the eastside are as big or bigger and they arent loaded with HUGE SPEED
You're right blee, speed alone doesnt win games but in this instance it's the difference between sikeston and every team in your area... speed can be the difference between a loss of yards and a touchdown so the fact remains that speed is a huge factor in football as in any sport. And your lack of understandin of this concept shows ignorance toward the game
You keep bringing up webb like that means anything... Have you actuallly seen them play... If you knew anything about webb you would understand why they win so much and it literally has almost no relevance in this conversation
Let's see Sonic, there was a year where Sikeston LOST to Fredericktown......
So if your from the west side of the state you pass 80% of the time and it opens your pass up. Easy enough. So why is it not north-south on the style of football?
Bleed...I think you bumped your head. Nice try though.
mojo3...I believe that was Gibbs' first year. I'm not 100% sure on that. The next year, Sikeston came back and spanked Freddy. Freddy didn't want any after that year.
We lost to Freddy at Freddy in 08, the second year for Gibbs. Then, we beat them at Sikeston the year after that in the first of thirteen straight victories. Also, Bleed Green is still a homer.
I bring up Webb City because they are a successfull program,I would talk about Valle but im sure you people would down play them because they are a small school.Yes i have watched Webb play several times.But according to you if you are faster than the other team you should beat them,and anybody with a lick of common sense would know that.
Bleed Green.....I'm following ya. We're on the same page.I was just referring to SG, PHC and FRED as "Non-semo" teams.....which we all know is a bit silly.
On the other hand, these three programs are simply not a huge part of this site and it's coverage. It's just how it is...
Rust Communications which owns Semoball and the SeMissourian also owns the Standard Democrat in Sikeston, the Dexter Daily Statesman, the Dunklin Daily Democrat, and the Daily American Republic in Poplar Bluff. They also own a lot of littler weekly newspapers in the area and a lot of newspapers in other areas of the state and country. However, they can only get "SEMO" stories from the newspapers they own. Thus, the schools covered by Semoball are the schools in the different coverage areas of those different papers. They can post the stories from those papers on this site for free because they own those different newspapers.
SemoSports I agree with everything you said. Speed wins games. Sideline can agree with me here, the main reason Sikeston beat Jackson this year is because of speed. Jackson wasn't fast enough to beat them.
Agreed redhawk. Sikeston's speed by their defensive ends can be a gamechanger in a lot of games. Also, I think Sikeston wore Jackson down in the second half through those long offensive drives. Sikeston is pretty well-conditioned this year.
You are exactly right. Bleed Green, who is the defensive player for you all who has a lot of sacks?
Is he getting recruited pretty heavily?
I believe he is going to SIU
That's good. SIU likes those St. Gen players
Bleed Green are you serious?? First of all SG is not even in SEMO along with PHC.. you all would not beat Jackson, Cape, or Sikeston for that matter! I agree with you Sikeston's fans are cocky but they have every right to be since they have dominated this area for the last three years like Jackson did for the last decade before that! Cape had played a tough schedule but trust me I've seen them play and you all would lose by 15-20 points.. Jackson would best you by about 21-28 and Sikeston would probably win by about 35! You are so biased towards your team your starting to make us all think you don't know anything about football. Lay off going to all those winerys up there in St. Gen... Lol.. if you think you so good call your schools AD and tell him you would like to see Cape, Sikeston, and Jackson dominate you next year!
Last I heard Terrana was being recruited by quite a few schools, none out of the picture yet. Memphis is on his list as well as schools around the semo area. And if I may put my two cents in, speed does make you a better football player but I have seen a lot of h.s. plays with speed that were not good football players. Score a lot faster with speed guys and they can make defending very difficult.
According to HB we should just get the biggest people we can find and line them up and that will beat speed. Correct?
Dude if you read my post I said speed is good to have,your the one that says its HUGE.Nowhere did I say get the biggest people either,you just read what you want to read.I have seen many games where a team is faster than the other and lose.Speed may help you in the bootheel but once you get deep in the playoffs good teams can stop HUGE speed.Good teams can handle HUGE speed.
So tell me how you handle it? What are the things you or they would do to beat it?
Footballfan29 do you really believe that? If you do your the one drinking the wine!! I guess we will never know but I've seen Jackson and Cape play and SG would beat them 9-10 times that I know! Sikeston and SG would be a great game. But like I said we will never know
Keep them off the field,control the clock with your offense,they cant score if they dont have the ball.Defense has to man up and be physical,control the line of scrimmage.Play very disciplined.Get after the QB.This might sound impossible but seen it done.Well coached teams can do this.I'm sure there are many ways to do this,if your team buys into the system it makes it easier.Park Hills did this to MRH and they have alot more speed than they do.I saw Platte County do this to NMCC.NMCC was one of the fastest teams i've ever seen with alot of D1 talent.Like i said speed is good to have but its not HUGE.Good teams can beat speed.I'm done.
footballfan29 is smoking crack.
All I'm saying is that speed is huge because what is Sikeston without it? and is Oregon a top 5 team without it? you you can go on and on about how it's not huge but it is as big a part of football as anything. Also a point I'd like to make about speed that may hit home with SG is remember a couple years ago when you met NMCC in the playoffs and they laid that 70 something score on you? yeah the reason you couldn't stop them is because they we're so much faster you couldn't see straight. And you had a really good team that year. BTW that speed I'm talking about isn't limited to just offense so staying on the field on offense is going to be a real difficult thing to do. Now on to Webb City the real reason why Webb is the best team in 4a year in and year out is that they execute better than any team in the state while running an offence that is not easy to be good at, but when executed is nearly impossible to stop especially in high school football
I think the fact that Bleed Green is such a homer is blinding some people here to the fact that SG is a really good football team. They are very capable of beating Sikeston, Cape, or Jackson. The same goes for PHC.
Just saying good teams can counter speed and the year NMCC laid 70 something points on SG had to do alot with their, D was down right bad.They couldnt tackle to save their life,made alot of teams look good.Ask daddy about SGs D that year.Believe me when I say they were bad on D,had a nephew that played db that year.
Question for you Bleed...do you think Sikeston's defense is good?? IMO, this defense is better than the 2009 defense that played Hilas. Honestly, if this defense played on the 2009 team or 2010 team it would've been in the dome. SG is a VERY good team, but they wouldn't beat Sikeston this year. It would prolly be like 29-13 or somewhere in that area. If, you think Cape isn't a good team your a fool. I predict another Sikeston Cape battle in the playoffs.
Counter speed by playing a perfect game in which your description laid out. Easy enough. Get some sleep in between lime kiln shifts. Speed kills. Ever heard that?
... dog you are delusional about how good this defense is trust me. the only position where this defense is better than that defense is DE.
Sikeston wins district.....gets spanked hard and sent home a week later. Argue against that!
I think it completely depends on who they play, class 4 in the east is down this year... I'll say this much They've got a much tougher road ahead than what they've had thus far.
Wow, what a thread..lol..My two cents. I would say if SG was completely healthy they would handle themselves just fine with Cape, Sike and Jackson. Not saying they would win but would be in them. Now since they aren't heathly at the moment I think BG is just grasping at air here. And I have seen SG, Cape and Jackson play but haven't Sikeston just going by what I have heard about them. So no way could I put them at #1 even if they were considered in the Semo area. They would be 4th IMO behind Sikeston, Jackson and Cape. On the other hand. speed can work for you or against you.
i'll say this... i'd rather have a team of skill players that run 4.8 forties, lineman that run 5.7 forties, and linebackers that run 5.0 forties that have near perfect fundamentals than a bunch of 4.4 forty running players that can't block, catch, run, pass, or throw. like old man coach ford says, "the best way to beat speed is to make them run sideways." with a fast running back, if you make them run east and west they cant gain any yards.if you play solid zone against receivers, you can cover speed. i will agree that speed kills, but you can defend speed with solid fundamentals. look what freddy did to eli jackson in '08. he was faster than any player freddy had and he had 122 yards when he could have easily had 250 with his speed and size. that's why teams like freddy do pursuit drills in practice. it helps you prepare for speed.
that team was 5-5 so really not all that impressive... Speed isn't a magic potion that makes you unstoppable but what it does do is something that slow teams dont understand until they get in the game and realize that the hole that used to be there on the dive was filled and the passing lane that is usually there isn't and we cant get to the outside on the sweep andoh the Qb is bottled up and then he's gone for 6 and that is why speed Kills and why you cant prepare for speed because there is no way to replicate what Sikeston does with your scout team no matter how good they may be at SG Fredricktown PHHS
Dog yes I do think Sikestons D is good I think Sikeston is good I've already said that I'm not gonna tell u that SG will beat them by 35 like one of the previous post says Sikeston will do to SG!! But I do believe SG can beat Sikeston. I knew I'd get you Sikeston boys wound up!!
@ Zachattack obviously your from SG or from that area too.. there's no way SG beats Cape, Sikeston, or Jackson this year.... I've seen all three and they have way too much speed ans size to go along with it for SG to capitalize and beat either of the three teams.. the fact is you all play in a weaker class with a weaker schedule...
Oh and I've never done crack... Lol
Bleed Green reminds me of the threads last year from BluGold!
Both are brick walls!!
footballfan29 is apparently on something.
Have you seen SG and PHC? No you haven't if you have you would of never said that last comment. Thats my problem with most of you u sit here and say I've seen cape Sikeston and Jackson play they will beat you by 40! And u never seen SG or PHC play! I have and I saw cape vs JB I saw Sikeston vs Farm and Jackson vs Sikeston and I'm telling you from what I saw SG and PHC will beat all 3!! Especially cape and Jackson and why is cape even mentioned heck I can name several schools that could beat cape! Cape should worry about winning THERE 3 GAME instead of worrying about how good they should be
Not a homer here, but SG would give the Bulldogs a good game. Probably two of the best coaches in the area at making adjustments when needed. It would be an interesting game to see. I think the SG/Caruthersville game next Friday will be interesting too...
All I got to say is good luck against John Burroughs if you make it that far. Then we will see if speed kills. Don't let them score 42 on you in the first half this year if you want to have a chance.
JB can name the score on any game they have left. And Ste Genevieve will have the only two teams in the area left playing that day.
If you think SG's schedule is tougher than Cape Centrals then I want whatever you are smoking! On second thought, I would get thrown in jail if I got caught. Never mind...Like Sideline said, HOMER!
Some one shouldve told Bryant Allen from Maplewood (Couple years back) you cant gain yards running East and West. Due to his speed, he ran 225 yards for a 60 yard TD lol
If we do play JB again they wont beat us as bad as they beat Cape that I know! If SG was healthy they could beat them but as of now they would loose by 14! But you never know I know a few years ago everyone said St Charles Dushense would beat us by 35 and we beat them on the way to the dome! I'll take this group of kids with these 2 coaches every time and I promise you I'm right way more then I'm wrong!!
Yes I am! At least I admit it. Here's sideline I am not a Sikeston fan! Here's me Sikeston sucks! Here's sideline they don't suck there the fastest team since the Rams in 99 and there Defense is better then the Steelers in the 70's they are the best team ever!! I even have little bulldog undies I wear for good luck! But I'm not a Homer!!!
uh oh you just started it BG time to feel sidelines wrath.
Yup, that's me even though I haven't gotten into the speed discussion at all other than to agree with a point redhawk made. But by all means, keep getting mad about making a fool of yourself. You have my permission.
Also no-one has said anything in response to how Oregon is a prime example of how speed is a huge factor in football. I wonder why that is?
I'm pretty sure calling someone an idiot on semoball is against the rules but anyway if you dont think speed is a big deal in football you are an idiot, ask any coach, or anyone who knows the game better than you (which clearly is just about anybody) and you quickly find out Just how dumb you really are
You healthy... they still beat you by more than they did Cape. Cape was on their way to pull within 8 in the fourth when a penalty and then the running back went wrong way on 4th down stopping there drive in Burrough's territory. Burroughs scored twice in the last 5 min of the game to pull away like they did. And I watched them last year and this year twice and they are better than last year's Burroughs team. They could have scored 80+ last year on you! This year you might score more than once on them I will give you that but you will not stop them!
Me a fool you Sikeston fans think your hot stuff and your always right and your team is the best and if another person hypes up there team you all flip out! From what I can tell you have been doing this on here for years but guess what I wasn't on here and now I am and I ain't going no where unless I slip up! So get your fingers all rested up cause its going to be a long and fun next 6 weeks well 6 weeks for SG 4 for sikeston
You don't do basketball season right?
I'll say this much last years st gen team would have been donkeykong stomped on by sikeston... And that's all that really matters to me
I hate Basketball! I'd rather watch paint dry!
You should stick around and comment on sikeston basketball!
Yeah! With the inferiority complex you have to us now, it will hit a whole new level then!
Oh geez I have a feeling there a 100 times worse about there basketball team!! All I know about basketball from Semo is Charelston usually is really good really good!
You only dont like basketball because yall play a boring style of basketball in the north. Down here much like Sikeston's football we like to run and gun
And yes basketball forums are much more fierce than football down here
There's not much to like about high school basketball in that area!!
No basketball around here is bad!!
Hey sideline---What ever happened to inspector gadget?
Is Charelston still THE team down there?
One man's opinion, but as far as basketball recently. The top teams each year...
2006 - Sikeston (2nd in Class 4) or Charleston (2nd in Class 3)
2007 - Notre Dame (2nd in Class 4) or Charleston (state champs in Class 3) or even Jackson (sectionals in Class 5)
2008 - Notre Dame (Class 4 state champs)
2009 - Sikeston (Class 4 quarters) or Scott Central (Class 1 state champs)....the year of "the game"
2010 - Scott Central (Class 1 state champs)
2011 - Sikeston (30-0 Class 4 state champs) or Scott Central (Class 1 champs)
2012 - Charleston (Class 3 state champs)
So to answer your question, Charleston is in the discussion most years and currently have the claim as the best team until somebody knocks them off.
So basically it has been Sikeston, Charleston, Scott Central, and Notre Dame with ND being off the pace a bit since Willen left.
Yes, although you prolly won't get that answer on this site unless He Hate Me chimes in haha!
SCC won in 2012 as well.
They weren't the best in 2012 though Buck. He's just going by who the best team was or could have a claim in each year. SCC lost a lot of games to teams that weren't that great last year.
Charleston also made it to the quarters in 2009, not just sikeston
They were the best in class 1 though.
They were the best in Class 1. They were not the best in SEMO overall that year though which is what Semohoops was illustrating. He was showing the top teams and where they finished, not just the best finishers in SEMO in each class.
I understand that, I was just disagreeing to an extent. Who does sikeston have coming back this year, I can't recall!? JT gonna be good!?
Just listing who I thought the top teams were as sideline said. SCC was not one of the top teams last year. Charleston was the clear cut best and Sikeston was second best, but since Charleston won both games (although close), they have the obvious claim as the better team last year. In 2009, Sikeston hammered Charleston in their only meeting. The top two teams were clearly Sikeston and SCC (who Sikeston beat in "the game"), but they still deserve a mention.
I was just answering the guy's question. It's just one man's opinion.
Sikeston has back JT, Vashawn Ruffin, and Markeith Bratcher, all of whom were among our top four or five scorers, as our key pieces plus Kyland Gross, Cord Sheehy, Reese Porter who all got varsity time and a whole host of kids coming up from JV who will be really good and kids who didn't play last year. They'll be 10+ deep again.
hey the carr trophy winner was on a 6-4 team that year... keeping a stud like eli jackson under 200 yards is a task. even if they went 0-10. too bad for him nobody else on the team was as talented as he was.
BleedGreen = Homer
Speed is nothing without a solid line And discipline. I believe Kennet an NMCC are proof of that.
Great point BIG G!!
Sounds like another good team!
I don't think anybody on here is saying that speed is not crucial in football, the debate is its relative importance versus things like size, fundamentals, coaching, etc.
And anybody on here who thinks Cape, Jackson, or Sikeston would blow SG or PHC out just doesn't know what they're talking about. Both teams are very talented, esp. on defense, and that's gonna keep them in most games. PHC's ball control offense is also going to give most teams fits. Ste. Gen has a monster OL and DL. I wouldn't rank Ste. Gen #1, but if you were to include them in the Semoball area, I think both the Dragons and the Rebels would be in the top 5.
Thanks Preacher Man,only took you one sentence and me about ten post to say what I was trying to say.
i can bet that the slowest player on maplewood's team is faster than 90% of the kids on park hill's team. not bashing park hills kids. but those boys are FAST.
i know speed makes up for a lot. ryan sawyer was one of the fastest players freddy has ever had. he was also one of the most undisciplined corners freddy had. but if he got burnt on a go route, he could catch up to any receiver freddy played and make a play.
if you're a running back and you can't read holes or have no blocking, you aren't going to gain many yards against even an average defense. a slow running back with great vision will kill you. (david penwell for freddy back in '06)
you guys call BG a homer but as soon as anyone says anything about sikeston, you go berserk. if anyone mentions the "borderline" northern semo teams being able to hang with sikeston, jackson, or cape, we don't know what we're talking about. i'm wondering how many people have seen freddy, SG, and PHC play besides c'ville fans. i've seen jackson, cape, sikeston, and jackson play. i can tell you for a fact that freddy, SG, and PHC can hang with jackson, sikeston, and cape. not saying they will win, but they will not get blown out of the water like a lot of you think. freddy MURDERED farmington during the summer without sawyer, reide roberts, and zach proffer. i know its full contact camp and means nothing, but it gives you an idea of how good teams from the north are. call me a homer like i know you will... but i am not going to be like BG and say that the northern boys will KILL sikeston. we aren't the teams you schedule for homecoming anymore. unless it's SG scheduling freddy... lol.
and like i've said before, if semoball is going to consider marquand, ellington, van buren, and greenville in "southeast missouri" then there is NO reason PHC, and for sure SG and freddy in southeast missouri. every southeast missouri map has those towns in semo.
Daddy I don't think SG wanted to play Freddy on homecoming but they had no other choice with their schedule! The only other game that would of worked was Potosi but that was to early in the year and I think same week as valles! SG only has 4 regular season home games but now that they win districts will get 3 more!!
What are all the Dist standings? Can someone post all them class 1-5 don't really care about class 6
See HB1025 if you had speed you could have got where you were going must faster.
Where did I ever say that Ste. Gen or PHC couldn't beat Sikeston? Nowhere. While all of you argue over speed as if it is the only reason why Sikeston is any good at all, a lot of other factors about them are being ignored. A lot of the arguments against speed are that disciplined teams know how to stop it and that teams built on speed don't tend to have a lot of discipline when playing. That isn't a problem with this Sikeston team. They understand their assignments on defense and swarm to the ball. They are fundamentally sound tacklers (other than in the first quarter against Cape). They also understand that sometimes they have to allow yardage in order to prevent the big play. In my talks with guys on the team, they knew that against a team like Jackson with lots of different weapons that they would have to give up some short-yardage passes over the middle. That's what they wanted Jackson to target since they could only complete them so much. Meanwhile, they prevented them from going over the top and from getting the running game going and gave the Indians their first loss. They understand their gameplan and strategy and stick to it. They aren't as big as most of their opponents but they are traditionally better conditioned, obviously faster, but also right there with them in terms of discipline and football IQ which is being ignored in this discussion. Some of the best teams in the state and nation (and I'm not trying to make the case for either, just making a point) will beat teams that aren't even nearly on the same level as them by scores of 21-14 or 17-7 and people don't understand how they end up in deep playoff runs and championship games. They play disciplined football and wait for their opponents to make mistakes and capitalize. That is what Sikeston does and that is why they were able to stop a team like Cape completely from the end of the first quarter on (didn't allow a first down past mid-second quarter and allowed -7 yards of Cape offense in the second half).
Bleed Green is the biggest homer this website has seen in about six or eight months since BlueGold was making out Scott City to be a state basketball contender and is blinded from how good Sikeston is due to the fact he doesn't like us fans. He says Sikeston is either playing down to their opponent or getting a big head, neither of which is true in the least especially the second one. What he is used to is seeing the "good" teams win in blowouts because that is the only way that Ste. Gen knows how to win a game. This Sikeston team has a good offense but isn't built to ring up forty every game like the 09 and 10 teams. They are built to capitalize on your mistakes on both sides of the ball while having the discipline not to make mistakes of their own on defense. They may let you drive down the field but they are built to stop you when they have to.
Again, I've never said that Sikeston would kill Ste. Gen or PHC. Sikeston and PHC are similar with the disciplined defense but one offense relies on long, sustained drives while the other relies on causing mistakes and capitalizing on them. Personally, yes, I do think Sikeston is the best team in the area no matter what boundaries you put on it but not by some dominating margin. BG wants to make it out like I'm some sort of blind worshipper when he is the one who cannot take off the homer glasses. I don't see why I always get thrown into these discussions of the most supremely biased people on here when I didn't even have my own team first in my own top five rankings until they beat a team that looked like they were better than them. To those of you saying that all Sikeston fans think we are already a lock for a matchup with Webb City in the semi-finals or something, no we do not. (Most) Sikeston fans understand that you have to look at football one week at a time. I've never said we were going to even out and out win a game this season. I say who I "think" is going to win based off of a given reasoning. I don't say that someone just will win and there is no possibility in the other direction whether Sikeston is playing East Prairie or Webb City. Every single game, your team, no matter who it is, must execute on a high level and come out with confidence but not cockiness or there is always a chance of losing. (Most of) our fans both on this site and in the stands understand that wholeheartedly. We've seen our team lose too many times in games we thought we should have won in the past. Due to the college I root for, I more than understand that no game is a given. I was raised to expect the team I root for to lose every game. Sikeston fans get that no game is a given. However, we also know the talent of our team.
Class 5 District 1
Seed Team Record Points Next Opponent Next Game Date
1 Rockwood Summit 6-1 43.53 Webster Groves (4-2) 10/12/2012
2 Jackson 5-1 41.56 Hickman (6-0) 10/12/2012
3 Fox 4-3 39 Eureka (5-2) 10/12/2012
4 Poplar Bluff 4-3 30.58 Normandy (2-5) 10/12/2012
5 Vianney 2-5 28.86 Farmington (2-5) 10/12/2012
6 Seckman 1-6 19.57 Parkway North (3-4) 10/12/2012
Class 4 District 1
1 Sikeston 7-0 48.84 Jennings (2-4) 10/13/2012
2 Hillsboro 5-2 38.59 Lutheran South (3-4) 10/12/2012
3 Festus 5-2 37.23 St. Charles West (4-3) 10/12/2012
4 North County 4-3 32.83 Potosi (3-4) 10/12/2012
5 Central (Cape Girardeau) 2-5 32.72 Chaminade (2-5) 10/12/2012
6 Farmington 2-5 26.71 Vianney (2-5) 10/12/2012
7 DeSoto 2-5 21.81 Ste. Genevieve (6-1) 10/12/2012
8 Perryville 2-5 20.21 Windsor (Imperial) (0-7) 10/12/2012
Class 3 District 1
1 Ste. Genevieve 6-1 44.6 DeSoto with Kingston (2-5) 10/12/2012
2 Central (Park Hills) 5-2 44 Dexter (1-6) 10/12/2012
3 Fredericktown 4-3 38.71 Central (New Madrid County) (2-5) 10/12/2012
4 Potosi 3-4 29.68 North County (4-3) 10/12/2012
5 Central (New Madrid County) 2-5 26 Fredericktown (4-3) 10/12/2012
6 Dexter 1-6 23.62 Central (Park Hills) (5-2) 10/12/2012
7 Lift for Life Academy Charter 0-7 18.19 St. Mary's (St. Louis) (5-2) 10/12/2012
8 Kennett 0-7 13.31 Malden (5-2) 10/12/2012
Class 2 District 1
1 Caruthersville 5-1 46.72 Hayti (3-4) 10/12/2012
2 Charleston 5-2 41.1 East Prairie (0-7) 10/12/2012
3 Malden 5-2 39.4 Kennett (0-7) 10/12/2012
4 Jefferson (Festus) 3-3 32.31 Chaffee (2-5) 10/12/2012
5 Scott City 4-3 32.19 Christian (6-1) 10/12/2012
6 Grandview (Hillsboro) 3-4 26.4 St. Vincent (4-3) 10/12/2012
7 St. Pius X (Festus) 2-5 23.29 Crystal City (1-6) 10/12/2012
8 East Prairie 0-7 14.38 Charleston (5-2) 10/12/2012
Class 1 District 1
1 Portageville 7-0 54.81 Central (New Madrid County) (2-5) 10/18/2012
2 Valle Catholic 6-1 52.61 Herculaneum (5-2) 10/12/2012
3 Thayer 4-3 43.26 Willow Springs (3-4) 10/12/2012
4 St. Vincent 4-3 40.78 Grandview (Hillsboro) (3-4) 10/12/2012
5 Hayti 3-4 33.91 Caruthersville (5-1) 10/12/2012
6 Chaffee 2-5 30.37 Jefferson (Festus) (3-3) 10/12/2012
7 Crystal City 1-6 26.55 St. Pius X (Festus) (2-5) 10/12/2012
8 Cabool 0-7 21.88 Ava (3-4) 10/12/2012
Just to clear this up. When I talk about speed I'm talking TEAM speed, not just skill players. Sikeston, Jackson, and Cape all have fast linemen that get off the ball really quick. Cape definitely has the biggest line out of the three and sikeston is the fastest, possibly smallest as well but they make up for it with their speed/explosiveness. Jackson is in the middle of the two in terms of line play.
hey i agree that speed is an amazing asset. you get a team like sikeston, SG, freddy, or valle that usually has speed on the line and most skill positions, with the coaching staffs that they have, the sky is the limit on their skills. take jacob farmer from freddy. he went from a decent rb his freshman year to one of the best in the area his senior year. or stevenson from nmcc. i remember him as a freshman, crazy fast and shifty, but wasn't the best at reading holes or blocks. by his senior year he was THE best football player in SEMO. and i was grouping all of the BG haters together sideline. i like you. and i agree bleed can be a homer. but like people have said about the c'ville fans, "they're having a great year. let them have their fun on here." SG has been kinda down the past few years.
Ya making quarters last year is really down!! Keep it up I'm deleting u off my Facebook haha
Daddy- Are you sure you mean Cville fan's and not Portageville fans? Not many Cville fans get on here to begin with and much less brag about anything. Also, We usually have a good season every year so it's not like winning is new to us.
Cheese Daddy is delusional he stays up all night drinking Mt dew and chewing Grizzly watching his highlight tape!! Im really worried about the guy!!! Haha
Sikeston was fair at best for years, then they got themselves a coach, started beating all the local teams half their size then all of a sudden their semi pro. They are very high on themselves while not to impressive to others. The only way they're getting into the dome is with a ticket.
I'd say the same thing for any class 3 team on this side of the state other than JB
Looks like Central playing that tough schedule won't get them a home game after all. IMO they are a much better team than North County..Hopefully Central will correct that next year now that they understand the system.
Just looking at how the district standings have played out, obviously a tough schedule is helpful, but winning is more helpful. If Cape can just win a game or two they might move in to a homefield advantage situation, but they'll need some help with North County losing.
Well as far as Cape Central getting to #4, who are their remaining opponents? They win both and NC loses both, the points will be close. Win by more than 13 points to get more district points too.
NC is playing Potosi and Fredericktown. Should be two tough games for the Raiders. Cape should be able to handle Chaminade.
If Cape can beat Chaminade then they will also get the points for playing up in class. And then they finish at Festus who is above them in the rankings. They win this week I think they assure themselves a home game week 10.
Cape still has an outside shot at the three seed in their district. They need to finish in fourth with Festus in third which is doable and defeat Festus in the regular season finale. They can then use the seed appeal process to say they should be above Festus for winning the head-to-head and take the 3 seed from them.
yea that's what i meant... i was too busy doing a stupid report for school. my bad. and i don't chew that "p word" grizzly shizz. i chew copenhagen. a man's chew. and drink dr. pepper. a man's soda.
"They are same team you saw last year," Dexter coach Aaron Pixley said after Wednesday's practice. "Huge, big physical back. Good play action passing game. Obviously one the best running games in Southeast Missouri. And a very, very aggressive defense. If you take a look at some of the scores, they haven't given up very many points this year."
coach pixley must be delusional! PHC isn't in SEMO!!!
Haha good one Daddy!! Oh and ya I did I've been telling every one that's my farm haha
I'm new to the site so I just got to read this. Semosports I assume u are a sports writer. And I am in no way being disrespectful but when was MRH ever ranked #24. When we (PHC) played them they were #1 class 2a and third in st. Louis.
Those are maxpreps computer rankings which factor in things a bit different than MOsports or the Sports writers rankings. SG lost to MRH when they were ranked #1 in 2A and #2 behind Liberty on MOSports. The only fans that really followed the max preps rankings closely were the Portageville fans due to them getting no love from either of the other polls for some reason. The max preps rankings have been kinda funny to watch, after week 6 they had PHC sitting at 8-3 with wins against teams we never played. I think Fredericktown beat St Charles per the schedule on their site lol.
I figured it was something weird because we'vs been ranked for a few weeks to. Haven't seen the new rankings after Monday yet.
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